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As a counter to this, Sketch uses similar pricing and it was one of the things that made migrating off of it to a competitor at my last company so easy. Since S

by jjcm 5y ago

As a counter to this, Sketch uses similar pricing and it was one of the things that made migrating off of it to a competitor at my last company so easy. Since Sketch licenses were permanent, it was a no brainer of a decision. We could continue ongoing support at the last version of Sketch we had licenses for while embracing the new product, at no cost. As a consumer I love it, but it's a risky strategy from a stickiness standpoint.

delgaudm 5y ago
>As a consumer I love it, but it's a risky strategy from a stickiness standpoint. And why we should support Sketch and similar companies with buy-once licensing and shun those that force you into the subscription hell model.
- mortenjorck 5y ago
  Sketch, unfortunately, no longer offers this model to new customers. Legacy customers can still buy a new year of updates, but anyone new to Sketch can only rent the software.
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Larrikin 5y ago
If the product does everything you want why should you be forced to pay for updates forever for features you don't want? I would love to pay for Acrobat from like 7 years ago. There's been no value add for me.
- ygjb 5y ago
  That's a fair assessment, but I can tell you that if you run an Acrobat from 7 years ago, you are gonna have a bad time from a security perspective :) I hate subscription models too, but maintaining software takes time and money.
  - 41b696ef1113 5y ago
    I think that just emphasizes we need better desktop application sandboxing. If I could trivially say this app does not get network access, restricted to this file system directory, can only read the supplied file, etc why should I have to live in fear? Granted, now that everything "needs" the internet quite a few of those limitations are meaningless, but I can dream.
  - exodust 5y ago
    > you are gonna have a bad time from a security perspective You say that like it's inevitable, but there's no reason to state with certainty that bad things will happen unless you keep paying up. No doubt software companies benefit from the fear of old versions. The fear spreads via comments like yours. Who wants a "bad time"? Not me, not anyone. The solution is easy! Open wallet, pay now, or better still hand over credit card and keep paying every month. Protection money, turning bad times into good times.
  - can16358p 5y ago
    Depends on what the OP is doing. Some people just have repeated tasks of preparing documents. I don't see any security implications of using 7-year-old software as long as the user is just using it for authoring some PDFs and not opening anything of an external origin. The OS, if connected to the Internet, must be up to date though. That being said I agree that licensing/subscription model makes sense even though I personally hate it too.
- galaxyLogic 5y ago
  You are not buying a "product". You are buying a license to use the software under some conditions one of which could be that if you use it year after year you must pay more. Nobody is "forcing you" to pay for updates, they are selling you a license. And since they are the seller they can write the terms of the sale.
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by jjcm 5y ago

delgaudm 5y ago

>As a consumer I love it, but it's a risky strategy from a stickiness standpoint. And why we should support Sketch and similar companies with buy-once licensing and shun those that force you into the subscription hell model.

mortenjorck 5y ago
Sketch, unfortunately, no longer offers this model to new customers. Legacy customers can still buy a new year of updates, but anyone new to Sketch can only rent the software.
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Larrikin 5y ago

If the product does everything you want why should you be forced to pay for updates forever for features you don't want? I would love to pay for Acrobat from like 7 years ago. There's been no value add for me.

ygjb 5y ago
That's a fair assessment, but I can tell you that if you run an Acrobat from 7 years ago, you are gonna have a bad time from a security perspective :) I hate subscription models too, but maintaining software takes time and money.
- 41b696ef1113 5y ago
  I think that just emphasizes we need better desktop application sandboxing. If I could trivially say this app does not get network access, restricted to this file system directory, can only read the supplied file, etc why should I have to live in fear? Granted, now that everything "needs" the internet quite a few of those limitations are meaningless, but I can dream.
- exodust 5y ago
  > you are gonna have a bad time from a security perspective You say that like it's inevitable, but there's no reason to state with certainty that bad things will happen unless you keep paying up. No doubt software companies benefit from the fear of old versions. The fear spreads via comments like yours. Who wants a "bad time"? Not me, not anyone. The solution is easy! Open wallet, pay now, or better still hand over credit card and keep paying every month. Protection money, turning bad times into good times.
- can16358p 5y ago
  Depends on what the OP is doing. Some people just have repeated tasks of preparing documents. I don't see any security implications of using 7-year-old software as long as the user is just using it for authoring some PDFs and not opening anything of an external origin. The OS, if connected to the Internet, must be up to date though. That being said I agree that licensing/subscription model makes sense even though I personally hate it too.
galaxyLogic 5y ago
You are not buying a "product". You are buying a license to use the software under some conditions one of which could be that if you use it year after year you must pay more. Nobody is "forcing you" to pay for updates, they are selling you a license. And since they are the seller they can write the terms of the sale.

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