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> These vaccines were an amazing tool to help end the pandemic Oh, it has ended? lol.

by albatross13 5y ago

lalaland1125 5y ago
It has pretty much ended for the vaccinated. Vaccinated people have a very very low chance of death or hospitalization, an order of magnitude lower than the unvaccinated in many cases.
- Handytinge 5y ago
  There are many countries where lockdown, daily restrictions, entry requirements and isolation are still normal. This pandemic is global - just because things have improved where you are doesn't mean that's the case for the other 95% of the world's population.
  - lalaland1125 5y ago
    That's a non-sequitur. The pandemic, as in the actual killing / harming of people with the virus, is mostly over for vaccinated people. True, some political response to the pandemic are still in place, but that would happen no matter what as politics tends to move slower than the reality on the ground.
    - orra 5y ago
      > The pandemic, as in the actual killing ... That's not the definition of pandemic. A pandemic is a very widespread infectious disease. Theoretically, the disease doesn't even have to be deadly. It's true that the vaccines have substantially reduced risk for the vaccinated, but I don't think we can (yet) say the pandemic is over.
bsder 5y ago
Effectively, yes. Omicron puts us in the endgame--Covid is an endemic disease now. It's not the endgame we wanted, but it's the endgame. Omicron is apparently as contagious as chicken pox, and chicken pox effectively infected every person (generally in waves when enough new children hadn't had it). Due to Omicron, in 30-60 days, everyone will have been infected, vaccinated, or both. Even if you could get all the human infections to zero, the animal reservoirs would simply start it up again. Welcome to the new world. Perhaps people will take a pandemic slightly more seriously next time. But I doubt it.

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> These vaccines were an amazing tool to help end the pandemic Oh, it has ended? lol.

by albatross13 5y ago

> These vaccines were an amazing tool to help end the pandemic Oh, it has ended? lol.

lalaland1125 5y ago
It has pretty much ended for the vaccinated. Vaccinated people have a very very low chance of death or hospitalization, an order of magnitude lower than the unvaccinated in many cases.
- Handytinge 5y ago
  There are many countries where lockdown, daily restrictions, entry requirements and isolation are still normal. This pandemic is global - just because things have improved where you are doesn't mean that's the case for the other 95% of the world's population.
  - lalaland1125 5y ago
    That's a non-sequitur. The pandemic, as in the actual killing / harming of people with the virus, is mostly over for vaccinated people. True, some political response to the pandemic are still in place, but that would happen no matter what as politics tends to move slower than the reality on the ground.
    - orra 5y ago
      > The pandemic, as in the actual killing ... That's not the definition of pandemic. A pandemic is a very widespread infectious disease. Theoretically, the disease doesn't even have to be deadly. It's true that the vaccines have substantially reduced risk for the vaccinated, but I don't think we can (yet) say the pandemic is over.
bsder 5y ago
Effectively, yes. Omicron puts us in the endgame--Covid is an endemic disease now. It's not the endgame we wanted, but it's the endgame. Omicron is apparently as contagious as chicken pox, and chicken pox effectively infected every person (generally in waves when enough new children hadn't had it). Due to Omicron, in 30-60 days, everyone will have been infected, vaccinated, or both. Even if you could get all the human infections to zero, the animal reservoirs would simply start it up again. Welcome to the new world. Perhaps people will take a pandemic slightly more seriously next time. But I doubt it.