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The fact is, this is how democracy works. Most Poles currently prefer this government to a neoliberal cesspool.
by teluride5 5y ago
The fact is, this is how democracy works. Most Poles currently prefer this government to a neoliberal cesspool.
- okl 5y agoFalse dichotomy?
- gambiting 5y agoAn authoritarian government elected democratically is still authoritarian.
- jsodw 5y ago
- Jorengarenar 5y agoNorth Koreans wept when the previous dictator died. Is NK not authoritarian? And from the closer neighborhood: Russia and Belarus
- gambiting 5y agoIt's called Democratic Republic Of North Korea so of course not, it's in the name /s
- gspr 5y agoHow? By enacting the will of an authoritarian majority, of course.
- teluride5 5y agoCalling it authoritarian is an opinion, which can be debated. The parent comment said the government was not democratic, which is false.
- dahfizz 5y agoAn authoritarian government elected democratically is still democratic. The whole point of democracy is that the people choose the government they want for themselves.
- Jorengarenar 5y ago>Most Poles currently prefer this government to a neoliberal cesspool. Not really. They just don't hate it enough to unite against it. Let's say that there are parties X, Y and Z. 30% of the population votes for X, 30% for Y and 40% for Z. Now, even if followers of X and Y hate Z more than each other, the winner is still Z.
- jobstijl 5y agoNot in a parliamentary system like they have in the Netherlands.
- tryptophan 5y agoPoland also has proportional representation. A 40% party will need to coalition with other parties if it wants to have enough votes to rule.
- pzduniak 5y agoExcept votes for parties who get less than 5% (if running alone) or 8% of votes (if a Coalition) do not count. So that 40% becomes 52% and suddenly the only thing you can do as a minority party is yell.
- tryptophan 5y agoRules like that aren't uncommon. Netherlands is like the one exception that doesn't require parties to win >4-5% of the vote to get into parliament. And all of these systems are more democratic than what the USA uses.
- dahfizz 5y ago> 30% of the population votes for X, 30% for Y and 40% for Z. > Now, even if followers of X and Y hate Z more than each other, the winner is still Z. In this situation, Z would not win a runoff election though. In 2020 The PiS candidate won the presidential election[1]. I think saying that most Poles prefer the current government is imprecise but still truthful, therefore. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Polish_presidential_election#Results https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Polish_presidential_elect...
- pzduniak 5y agoIt's not "most Poles". It's realistically a quarter, maybe a third of the population. Thankfully, the turnout increased from 51% in 2015 (when they won the absolute majority for the first time with 38%) to 68% in the second presidential election vote in 2020 (when they also won, but with a pretty slim margin).
- caymanjim 5y agoYou'll never know what most citizens prefer if you prevent or encumber opposition candidates.