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Ah like YikYak, but more precise locations.

by hunterb123 5y ago

ceejayoz 5y ago
And all the problems, like bomb threats dropped near schools via spoofed GPS locations.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Moderation is needed for any communication platform. Flag all keywords you would need to do a bomb threat for review. Preferably have a client side filter, like profanity, so users can customize to their liking and you aren't censoring too heavily. Some server side filtering for illegal messages like threats. Open mod logs for even more transparency.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    YikYak found out how immensely difficult that is. So have Facebook and Twitter, despite billions of dollars to throw at such problems. There was a link a few days ago on the HN front page that rather humorously covered the difficulty of this. http://habitatchronicles.com/2007/03/the-untold-history-of-toontowns-speedchat-or-blockchattm-from-disney-finally-arrives/ http://habitatchronicles.com/2007/03/the-untold-history-of-t... "We thought it was the perfect solution, until we set our first 14-year old boy down in front of it. Within minutes he’d created the following sentence: I want to stick my long-necked Giraffe up your fluffy white bunny. "
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      Does it really matter if messages like that get through? Client side AI filters can attempt to get rid of raunchy messages. Keyword filters and flagging for things like threats can stop the illegal stuff. Don't try to over censor and nanny state people. edit: to clarify, messages "like that" refer to the kid's message in your above post.
      - ceejayoz 5y ago
        > Does it really matter if messages like that get through? When they're veiled bomb threats against schools, yes. That gets media and regulatory attention that kills the brand - again, as YikYak quickly found out. > Keyword filters and flagging for things like threats can stop the illegal stuff. Again, the idea that keyword filters can handle this is silly. It was silly a decade ago. The big social networks have invested enormous time, money, and effort into increasingly sophisticated AI... and the result is people still get incorrectly and absurdly flagged for innocuous posts while clearly offending ones slip through.
tlhunter 5y ago
My friend mentioned YikYak as a potential competitor to me several months ago. I tried to install their app but I think they had taken it down for a few months. Fast forward and YikYak does have some similarities. The main differences are that YikYak has a universal 5 mile radius, all messages are in the same "namespace", and they're anonymous, plus no map. I'm sure they anonymize the posting location with jitter to promote anonymity. Radar Chat definitely caters to a different use-case with the precision of the post being important. If you leave a "whisper" message (L1), it has a radius of around 10 meters, which isn't as useful for shouting ideas to the masses like YikYak.

Ah like YikYak, but more precise locations.

ceejayoz 5y ago

And all the problems, like bomb threats dropped near schools via spoofed GPS locations.

hunterb123 5y ago
Moderation is needed for any communication platform. Flag all keywords you would need to do a bomb threat for review. Preferably have a client side filter, like profanity, so users can customize to their liking and you aren't censoring too heavily. Some server side filtering for illegal messages like threats. Open mod logs for even more transparency.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  YikYak found out how immensely difficult that is. So have Facebook and Twitter, despite billions of dollars to throw at such problems. There was a link a few days ago on the HN front page that rather humorously covered the difficulty of this. http://habitatchronicles.com/2007/03/the-untold-history-of-toontowns-speedchat-or-blockchattm-from-disney-finally-arrives/ http://habitatchronicles.com/2007/03/the-untold-history-of-t... "We thought it was the perfect solution, until we set our first 14-year old boy down in front of it. Within minutes he’d created the following sentence: I want to stick my long-necked Giraffe up your fluffy white bunny. "
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    Does it really matter if messages like that get through? Client side AI filters can attempt to get rid of raunchy messages. Keyword filters and flagging for things like threats can stop the illegal stuff. Don't try to over censor and nanny state people. edit: to clarify, messages "like that" refer to the kid's message in your above post.
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      > Does it really matter if messages like that get through? When they're veiled bomb threats against schools, yes. That gets media and regulatory attention that kills the brand - again, as YikYak quickly found out. > Keyword filters and flagging for things like threats can stop the illegal stuff. Again, the idea that keyword filters can handle this is silly. It was silly a decade ago. The big social networks have invested enormous time, money, and effort into increasingly sophisticated AI... and the result is people still get incorrectly and absurdly flagged for innocuous posts while clearly offending ones slip through.

tlhunter 5y ago

My friend mentioned YikYak as a potential competitor to me several months ago. I tried to install their app but I think they had taken it down for a few months. Fast forward and YikYak does have some similarities. The main differences are that YikYak has a universal 5 mile radius, all messages are in the same "namespace", and they're anonymous, plus no map. I'm sure they anonymize the posting location with jitter to promote anonymity. Radar Chat definitely caters to a different use-case with the precision of the post being important. If you leave a "whisper" message (L1), it has a radius of around 10 meters, which isn't as useful for shouting ideas to the masses like YikYak.