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In this case there is a treaty for help and the kazakh dictator just requested help via this treaty. I guess the russian military will only protect important in

by nisa 5y ago

In this case there is a treaty for help and the kazakh dictator just requested help via this treaty. I guess the russian military will only protect important infrastructure and will try to avoid shooting civilians. Of course there is a lot unknown.

avmich 5y ago
The treaty is against external aggression. In some previous case help was refused citing this reason. This time external aggression looks like a pretense.
- notch656a 5y ago
  The Russians said same to save face about Chechens when Chechens kicked their ass during first war.
lostlogin 5y ago
> try to avoid shooting civilians Russia has a long history of dealing with rebellions and uprisings. Protecting civilians has never been a priority as far as I am aware, and actively harming civilians has been a goal at times.
- foverzar 5y ago
  It's a rather bad faith statement. What exactly had built your current level of awareness of Russia's peacekeeping practices? Also, no idea where you got that "long history of dealing with rebellions and uprisings", Russian attitude to riots is very specific and history counts only really a few and only bright moments. Russians don't even have a culture of riot police, just look at all their protest! Putin forces his servicemen to use use brute force and rubber battons, instead of proper tear gas, rubber bullets and water cannons, such as you would see in any developed first-world country.
  - Jansen312 5y ago
    Basically bias. He or she wasn't aware how USA killed Iraqis (literally for fun - search for that video Iraq video leaked) on a cooked up false premise of WMD (Powell basically died bringing that shame to grave). The entire nation collapse. Same goes with Syria, Agfhan, and maybe Iran+Pakistan given a chance. Russia is still rookie compare to that. And yet, they are evil empire that need to get stopped at all cost. The irony is Nazi Germany the now our western allies was defeated by Russians and to some extend accelerated Imperial Japanese surrenders (the majority the history books in western countries got this part very wrong). Putin is doing it wrong. Western countries expect him to level up his brutality otherwise it makes them look bad.
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by nisa 5y ago

avmich 5y ago

The treaty is against external aggression. In some previous case help was refused citing this reason. This time external aggression looks like a pretense.

notch656a 5y ago
The Russians said same to save face about Chechens when Chechens kicked their ass during first war.

lostlogin 5y ago

> try to avoid shooting civilians Russia has a long history of dealing with rebellions and uprisings. Protecting civilians has never been a priority as far as I am aware, and actively harming civilians has been a goal at times.

foverzar 5y ago
It's a rather bad faith statement. What exactly had built your current level of awareness of Russia's peacekeeping practices? Also, no idea where you got that "long history of dealing with rebellions and uprisings", Russian attitude to riots is very specific and history counts only really a few and only bright moments. Russians don't even have a culture of riot police, just look at all their protest! Putin forces his servicemen to use use brute force and rubber battons, instead of proper tear gas, rubber bullets and water cannons, such as you would see in any developed first-world country.
- Jansen312 5y ago
  Basically bias. He or she wasn't aware how USA killed Iraqis (literally for fun - search for that video Iraq video leaked) on a cooked up false premise of WMD (Powell basically died bringing that shame to grave). The entire nation collapse. Same goes with Syria, Agfhan, and maybe Iran+Pakistan given a chance. Russia is still rookie compare to that. And yet, they are evil empire that need to get stopped at all cost. The irony is Nazi Germany the now our western allies was defeated by Russians and to some extend accelerated Imperial Japanese surrenders (the majority the history books in western countries got this part very wrong). Putin is doing it wrong. Western countries expect him to level up his brutality otherwise it makes them look bad.
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