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Yes, that's exactly what happens when you try to create a zero wealth gap - people cheat. You are the one that brought up the zero wealth gap with "Is there zer
by varelse 5y ago
Yes, that's exactly what happens when you try to create a zero wealth gap - people cheat. You are the one that brought up the zero wealth gap with "Is there zero wealth gap between people who shop at Walmart and the people who make the cheap crap that gets sold at Walmart", not me. So if you don't want to be contradicted on a subject, try not mentioning it in the first place, pro-tip even.
And libertarianism is just institutionalized cheating for all. Same result as communism in the long run - a tiny ruling class and a world full of peasants where it's good to be the king. I'll take neither.
But I'd love socialized healthcare, medicare for all even. Spoilers: a country infested with a bunch of temporarily embarrassed millionaires will never let that happen. And even in a global pandemic, if you don't get private money out of campaign financing, you'll never get a shot at convincing those temporarily embarrassed millionaires of anything else. But by all means, you be you.
- netizen-936824 5y agoWhat? People cheat in america constantly. Wasn't there a whole ton of fraud recently when it came to unemployment and the small business loans? People cheated for billions, capitalism definitely doesn't prevent thag
- varelse 5y agoYes, people cheat* because they are selfish, and any economic system has to take that into account which is where communism and libertarianism fall apart. But I thought we were talking about how if we have to wear stillsuits in the future, no one will be able to afford stillsuits except the rich despite the historical evidence 100% to the contrary. The rich will get them first though, designer stillsuits even, deal with it. Can't have everything. *But if you had any idea how many weird tricks the $100M+ class employs to avoid paying taxes, 100% legally ATM because our 2500+ page WTF tax code, you'd probably want to storm the Capitol again (or maybe not because you might have convinced yourself those weird tricks might come in handy some even though they probably won't).
- throwawayboise 5y agoWhen the government gives away money or makes loans with zero effort to qualify the recipients/borrowers, yes there will be cheating. That's not capitalism though.
- netizen-936824 5y agoMy point was that capitalism has produced people and behaviors which do the cheating
- varelse 5y agoWho would just cheat differently under any other system because cheaters gonna cheat. And that's why we still can't have nice things.