Ah, your original comment was not clear, we agree then. I'm just frustrated by the bandwagoning criticism of any use of CloudFlare and the suggestion anyone us

Ah, your original comment was not clear, we agree then. I'm just frustrated by the bandwagoning criticism of any use of CloudFlare and the suggestion anyone using them is MITM their own visitors, when clearly they are just another part of your own infrastructure (when used correctly). Your comment "TLS termination on the edge services is just stupid" made me think you were doing that.