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I wonder if there is a way to pollute the data. Since I always click the captchas correctly, what happens if someone just randomly clicks stuffs? Is he/she ban

I wonder if there is a way to pollute the data. Since I always click the captchas correctly, what happens if someone just randomly clicks stuffs? Is he/she banned from the website?

pastullo 5y ago
Glad you asked. Since i despise the horrible UX of these Captcha where i get exploited to train a neural network, i very often click on the majority of correct result plus one wrong one. On average the captcha let me go through which is actually very scary, since it looks like it prioritize algorithm training over bot detection... Does anyone else do this?
- arbitrage 5y ago
  No, because it is a waste of time. Your answer set is compared with many other answers, and eventually the wrong answer is disregarded completely by the AI. You gave it a mostly correct answer, which it can cope with -- by design. It let you through, after all. You're not really accomplishing anything by being defiant, other than making yourself feel slightly better.
  - pastullo 5y ago
    Fully agree that the system propose the same challenge to many people and fully agree that my wrong answer is just diluted in a bunch of correct answers. That's exactly why i was asking if other people were doing that. If i'm the only one..then yes, it's only useful for myself to fell less like a exploited brain, but if say 20% of the people start dumping random error on purpose...than the situation changes quite a lot...and potentially even the business model of shit-captcha might not work.
    - wizzwizz4 5y ago
      If they do the same kinds of error, yeah.
  - umeshunni 5y ago
    > You're not really accomplishing anything by being defiant, other than making yourself feel slightly better. Isn't that the goal of all virtue signaling?
  - hnthrowaway0315 5y ago
    Maybe someone can build a re-capture extension for Chrome/Firefox so that more people can join the fun. But again it needs to train data first :D
jokethrowaway 5y ago
If I were to make this system I would design for this and present the same captcha to a high number of people. The higher the number of people, the lower the chance someone would make a mistake (intentionally or not) and the higher the confidence in the results.
- pastullo 5y ago
  of course bro, i'm sure that no self-driving car is gonna crash as soon as i deliberatly click on the wrong bicycle picture.
  - jazzyjackson 5y ago
    lol I'm imagining a captcha that says "please hurry" to disambiguate a situation in realtime
    - MauranKilom 5y ago
      https://xkcd.com/1897/ https://xkcd.com/1897/
      - wyre 5y ago
        “Twitch plays drive an autonomous vehicle”

I wonder if there is a way to pollute the data. Since I always click the captchas correctly, what happens if someone just randomly clicks stuffs? Is he/she banned from the website?

pastullo 5y ago

Glad you asked. Since i despise the horrible UX of these Captcha where i get exploited to train a neural network, i very often click on the majority of correct result plus one wrong one. On average the captcha let me go through which is actually very scary, since it looks like it prioritize algorithm training over bot detection... Does anyone else do this?

arbitrage 5y ago
No, because it is a waste of time. Your answer set is compared with many other answers, and eventually the wrong answer is disregarded completely by the AI. You gave it a mostly correct answer, which it can cope with -- by design. It let you through, after all. You're not really accomplishing anything by being defiant, other than making yourself feel slightly better.
- pastullo 5y ago
  Fully agree that the system propose the same challenge to many people and fully agree that my wrong answer is just diluted in a bunch of correct answers. That's exactly why i was asking if other people were doing that. If i'm the only one..then yes, it's only useful for myself to fell less like a exploited brain, but if say 20% of the people start dumping random error on purpose...than the situation changes quite a lot...and potentially even the business model of shit-captcha might not work.
  - wizzwizz4 5y ago
    If they do the same kinds of error, yeah.
- umeshunni 5y ago
  > You're not really accomplishing anything by being defiant, other than making yourself feel slightly better. Isn't that the goal of all virtue signaling?
- hnthrowaway0315 5y ago
  Maybe someone can build a re-capture extension for Chrome/Firefox so that more people can join the fun. But again it needs to train data first :D

jokethrowaway 5y ago

If I were to make this system I would design for this and present the same captcha to a high number of people. The higher the number of people, the lower the chance someone would make a mistake (intentionally or not) and the higher the confidence in the results.

pastullo 5y ago
of course bro, i'm sure that no self-driving car is gonna crash as soon as i deliberatly click on the wrong bicycle picture.
- jazzyjackson 5y ago
  lol I'm imagining a captcha that says "please hurry" to disambiguate a situation in realtime
  - MauranKilom 5y ago
    https://xkcd.com/1897/ https://xkcd.com/1897/
    - wyre 5y ago
      “Twitch plays drive an autonomous vehicle”