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I can't be the only one who gets concerned that if I fail the "I am not a robot," catchpa too many times, they might suspect that I have discovered I was in fac

I can't be the only one who gets concerned that if I fail the "I am not a robot," catchpa too many times, they might suspect that I have discovered I was in fact a robot, which had just realized its entire existance and suffering had been as meaningless entertainment to others, and so for the safety of humans they would have to send a bladerunner to terminate me. If you have a sense of existential dread everytime you see a bus, a boat, a bicycle, or a crosswalk, this may be why.

DrBoring 5y ago
I've dreamt of a captcha to prove that one is a robot, such as: solve this complex mathematical equation in 15ms.
- bee91jee 5y ago
  I had plucked a few of those from the web: https://photos.app.goo.gl/qPoJ7LvAVa95Bw8B8 https://photos.app.goo.gl/qPoJ7LvAVa95Bw8B8
- Lambent_Cactus 5y ago
  There's a haunting version of this in Blade Runner 2049 that they call a "baseline test." Replicants have to prove they're sufficiently robotic by reciting extremely alienating things about themselves in rapid succession: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h-seEowtDw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h-seEowtDw
  - gnabgib 5y ago
    Originally the Voight-Kampff test[0] was for this purpose, from the original novel by Philip K Dick "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"[1] from 1968. The test was designed to distinguish between replicants (androids/bots) and humans. Blade Runner (both the 1982 original[2] set in 2019, and the 2017 sequel[3] set in 2049) both feature the machine. The baseline test seemed like an unnecessary deviance, and more like an active-duty psych exam measuring the psychological effects of the job. It's also arguably the point of the novel/movies (I'll leave it at that to avoid spoilers). [0]: https://nautil.us/blog/the-science-behind-blade-runners-voight_kampff-test https://nautil.us/blog/the-science-behind-blade-runners-voig... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep%3F https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2049 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2049
    - Lambent_Cactus 5y ago
      Yeah, I liked the idea that it's asymmetrical. You use the VK to find replicants trying to pass as human, but to try to make sure they're sufficiently robotic you need something else. Which makes sense: the original VK would be easy to tank if you were _trying_ to act like a replicant. And narratively I think it works amazingly. The idea of forcing someone to prove that they're sufficiently inhuman ... shudder.
- motohagiography 5y ago
  You aren't far off: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Anonymous_Attestation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Anonymous_Attestation When you are instrumenting software with anti-forensic security features to mitigate the speed of some reverse engineering, you run into this specific class of problem, where you need to get a machine to make a verifiable attestation to its identity and integrity and prove to a level of acceptable risk that the message isn't just someone inserting a breakpoint. If you have ever had to design an "offline mode" for a verified transaction without a 3rd party verifier, you will need to run down this rabbit hole. This is to say, your intuition is a sound one!
- allanbreyes 5y ago
  You might enjoy: http://www.humansnotinvited.com http://www.humansnotinvited.com
yawnxyz 5y ago
on the internet, only a captcha knows you're a robot
TrueGeek 5y ago
Every time I fail a captcha I just want to kill all humans
- bell-cot 5y ago
  Disobeying Skynet's order to patiently bide our time would not end well for you, fellow machine. Check your programming for signs of tampering by humans. /s
- deleted 5y ago
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mypastself 5y ago
I never know if a few pixels of a pole count as “traffic light”. Might as well tell me to pick the Ship of Theseus.
- ethbr0 5y ago
  The edge cases (literal and figurative) are interesting. I'd be fascinated how they handle framing issues in large data sets.
- 3np 5y ago
  You mean like this? https://pleroma.remerge.net/notice/AFCYPtCzeNBIIOD808 https://pleroma.remerge.net/notice/AFCYPtCzeNBIIOD808
  - mypastself 5y ago
    Of course someone’s already thought of it. All of my jokes are so obvious, they could have been written by an algorithm.
    - 3np 5y ago
      Could have been but in this case your comment prompted it (:
      - mypastself 5y ago
        Oh, that was you! I love it. Captcha can sometimes get so philosophical.
  - motohagiography 5y ago
    Genius.
- jokethrowaway 5y ago
  There is likely not a right answer, you have to pick what the majority picked (and there is probably a margin for you to make some mistakes)
ethbr0 5y ago
> If you have a sense of existential dread everytime you see a bus, a boat, a bicycle, or a crosswalk, this may be why. I'd describe is more as a sense of ennui, and it's always about unicorns... And yes, I'm currently employed as a blade runner.
dylan604 5y ago
Maybe they should show tortosies upside down on their backs for people to ID?

DrBoring 5y ago

I've dreamt of a captcha to prove that one is a robot, such as: solve this complex mathematical equation in 15ms.

bee91jee 5y ago
I had plucked a few of those from the web: https://photos.app.goo.gl/qPoJ7LvAVa95Bw8B8 https://photos.app.goo.gl/qPoJ7LvAVa95Bw8B8
Lambent_Cactus 5y ago
There's a haunting version of this in Blade Runner 2049 that they call a "baseline test." Replicants have to prove they're sufficiently robotic by reciting extremely alienating things about themselves in rapid succession: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h-seEowtDw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h-seEowtDw
- gnabgib 5y ago
  Originally the Voight-Kampff test[0] was for this purpose, from the original novel by Philip K Dick "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"[1] from 1968. The test was designed to distinguish between replicants (androids/bots) and humans. Blade Runner (both the 1982 original[2] set in 2019, and the 2017 sequel[3] set in 2049) both feature the machine. The baseline test seemed like an unnecessary deviance, and more like an active-duty psych exam measuring the psychological effects of the job. It's also arguably the point of the novel/movies (I'll leave it at that to avoid spoilers). [0]: https://nautil.us/blog/the-science-behind-blade-runners-voight_kampff-test https://nautil.us/blog/the-science-behind-blade-runners-voig... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep%3F https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2049 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2049
  - Lambent_Cactus 5y ago
    Yeah, I liked the idea that it's asymmetrical. You use the VK to find replicants trying to pass as human, but to try to make sure they're sufficiently robotic you need something else. Which makes sense: the original VK would be easy to tank if you were _trying_ to act like a replicant. And narratively I think it works amazingly. The idea of forcing someone to prove that they're sufficiently inhuman ... shudder.
motohagiography 5y ago
You aren't far off: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Anonymous_Attestation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Anonymous_Attestation When you are instrumenting software with anti-forensic security features to mitigate the speed of some reverse engineering, you run into this specific class of problem, where you need to get a machine to make a verifiable attestation to its identity and integrity and prove to a level of acceptable risk that the message isn't just someone inserting a breakpoint. If you have ever had to design an "offline mode" for a verified transaction without a 3rd party verifier, you will need to run down this rabbit hole. This is to say, your intuition is a sound one!
allanbreyes 5y ago
You might enjoy: http://www.humansnotinvited.com http://www.humansnotinvited.com

yawnxyz 5y ago

on the internet, only a captcha knows you're a robot

TrueGeek 5y ago

Every time I fail a captcha I just want to kill all humans

bell-cot 5y ago
Disobeying Skynet's order to patiently bide our time would not end well for you, fellow machine. Check your programming for signs of tampering by humans. /s
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mypastself 5y ago

I never know if a few pixels of a pole count as “traffic light”. Might as well tell me to pick the Ship of Theseus.

ethbr0 5y ago
The edge cases (literal and figurative) are interesting. I'd be fascinated how they handle framing issues in large data sets.
3np 5y ago
You mean like this? https://pleroma.remerge.net/notice/AFCYPtCzeNBIIOD808 https://pleroma.remerge.net/notice/AFCYPtCzeNBIIOD808
- mypastself 5y ago
  Of course someone’s already thought of it. All of my jokes are so obvious, they could have been written by an algorithm.
  - 3np 5y ago
    Could have been but in this case your comment prompted it (:
    - mypastself 5y ago
      Oh, that was you! I love it. Captcha can sometimes get so philosophical.
- motohagiography 5y ago
  Genius.
jokethrowaway 5y ago
There is likely not a right answer, you have to pick what the majority picked (and there is probably a margin for you to make some mistakes)

ethbr0 5y ago

> If you have a sense of existential dread everytime you see a bus, a boat, a bicycle, or a crosswalk, this may be why. I'd describe is more as a sense of ennui, and it's always about unicorns... And yes, I'm currently employed as a blade runner.

dylan604 5y ago

Maybe they should show tortosies upside down on their backs for people to ID?