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The part comparing the installation is a little disingenuous IMHO. You cannot seriously be complaining about Gatekeeper if you’re using a Mac. Dropbox has a web
by fuzzy2 5y ago
The part comparing the installation is a little disingenuous IMHO. You cannot seriously be complaining about Gatekeeper if you’re using a Mac. Dropbox has a web interface so it needs an account. 2FA enhances account security. Installing Homebrew also used sudo. In fact, you had to install it first. If you didn’t, you also wouldn’t have the Homebrew-services helper. And what’s wrong with an OOBE wizard? It’s software for everyone.
I haven’t used Dropbox in years (because it sucks now and I use ZFS), but this is not a fair comparison.
Syncthing is great. However, in comparison with Dropbox, if I look past the differences in what it does, I find that it’s just not suitable for most users. Remember that most users are barely able to operate their internet browser. Even seasoned users may have trouble setting it up on, say, Windows.
- ubermonkey 5y agoWhy does zfs put you off Dropbox?
- Macha 5y agoThere was a period where Dropbox announced they dropping support for everything except straight ext4 on linux, though they eventually rolled back on that
- mgoetzke 5y agoI think everything you say is true and understandable. But all these 'good practices' add up to a convulted experience. I recently tried moving my family over to a password manager. Something that can be understood and managed by my SO even if I should die etc. Something also usable for my 12 yo kid. Not as simple as it sounds. Across iPad/Pixel Phone/Edge Browser/Surface Book for my kid for example.
- newnamenewface 5y agoI had a similar experience trying to set up my family on a password manager. Something relatively simple to tech-inclined folks is like pulling teeth for the average person. For me, fortunately much of my family has some tech savvy but even still I'm 1/4 due to being across the country from most of them.
- collinmanderson 5y agoWhat password manager did you end up going with?
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- smaudet 5y agoI don't think its disigenuous, though. I think these 'best practices' are really just the software equivalent of legalese speak. If you had to run an install wizard, use a key, and upload a photograph of yourself everytime you wanted to, say, put orange juice in the fridge, your average user would scream bloody murder and rightly call your product bloody garbage. What you might see is a caretaker sign documents for a terminally disabled patient who need assisted living services and then put orange juice in the fridge...which is where the mistake comes from. This is the software equivalent of getting a lawyer and a caretaker involved every damn time you put orange juice in the fridge - because it works for the disabled few corporations mistake 'accesibilty' for good design... And then you realize this is 'standard practice' and finally understand how abhorrently terrible pretty much every damn website, app, and program on the planet is... Dropbox is absolute garbage. So is Apple. They need to remove 95 percent of their garbage for the average user - the option to use the assisted living features should be available but not turned on by default.
- fuzzy2 5y agoYeah I’m going to have to disagree completely here. Not only does your analogy not match the situation (setting it up is a one-time thing), you basically argue that… software was hard to write, it should be hard to use. I firmly believe the opposite should be the case: Most software should be accessible to everyone. This is absolutely imperative to advance mankind. Elitist thinking won’t help with that.