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Nvidia is great for Windows. As soon as you want to use Linux or macOS or Proxmox or anything, prepare for trouble. Its just not a FOSS-friendly company. Even

by Fnoord 5y ago

Nvidia is great for Windows. As soon as you want to use Linux or macOS or Proxmox or anything, prepare for trouble. Its just not a FOSS-friendly company. Even on the Nvidia Shield TV (a great bang for the buck) they added commercials in the new UI. Though one might attribute that to Google, it is the only Nvidia device I bought past 5 years. And the only one which got a feature downgrade (or upgrade with a feature I don't want/like). With regards to Intel I remember my 4770k not having a specific feature (IIRC for hardware virtualization) which all non-k series had. And I found that out too late.

hetspookjee 5y ago
haha it's staggering how big the presence of NVIDIA is in the deep learning community, yet after all these years it's still a painful process to get all the drivers up and running in the correct way. Their documentation surroundg CUDA and CUDNN are often out of date and/ or incomplete. Staggering
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Interesting. I never had any issues, just download the driver, compile, install and done. It even works with multi-screen setups and using the rest of the memory for CUDA.
jacquesm 5y ago
I've been using Nvidia cards for years on Linux and never had a single problem.
- eulers_secret 5y ago
  I’ve used Nvidia on Linux since owning a 670. Their proprietary driver works only OK. You don’t get flipped off by Linus T for having good drivers. You also don’t have to wait years for wayland to work if your driver is good.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Ok. On my end the first one I had that could do fast compute was a GTX 280, then a 590, then a 1080ti which I still have. Maybe I've just been lucky but over all that time not a single glitch. The main gripe I have with them is having you jump through hoops to be allowed to download certain libraries. That's just a complete nuisance. And I think their TOS are unethical.
  - 1_player 5y ago
    They didn't get flipped off for having bad drivers. They got flipped off for having closed source off-tree drivers. The NVIDIA driver on Linux is extremely good and in my experience of better quality than AMD, but sorely lacking in modern features such as Wayland support. We still don't have decent hardware encoding nor raytracing support on AMD, the champions of free software, while DLSS and NVENC have been running on Linux for a while now. I run AMD GPUs now but I'm quite done with the NVIDIA hate boner the Linux world has.

by Fnoord 5y ago

hetspookjee 5y ago

haha it's staggering how big the presence of NVIDIA is in the deep learning community, yet after all these years it's still a painful process to get all the drivers up and running in the correct way. Their documentation surroundg CUDA and CUDNN are often out of date and/ or incomplete. Staggering

jacquesm 5y ago
Interesting. I never had any issues, just download the driver, compile, install and done. It even works with multi-screen setups and using the rest of the memory for CUDA.

jacquesm 5y ago

I've been using Nvidia cards for years on Linux and never had a single problem.

eulers_secret 5y ago
I’ve used Nvidia on Linux since owning a 670. Their proprietary driver works only OK. You don’t get flipped off by Linus T for having good drivers. You also don’t have to wait years for wayland to work if your driver is good.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Ok. On my end the first one I had that could do fast compute was a GTX 280, then a 590, then a 1080ti which I still have. Maybe I've just been lucky but over all that time not a single glitch. The main gripe I have with them is having you jump through hoops to be allowed to download certain libraries. That's just a complete nuisance. And I think their TOS are unethical.
- 1_player 5y ago
  They didn't get flipped off for having bad drivers. They got flipped off for having closed source off-tree drivers. The NVIDIA driver on Linux is extremely good and in my experience of better quality than AMD, but sorely lacking in modern features such as Wayland support. We still don't have decent hardware encoding nor raytracing support on AMD, the champions of free software, while DLSS and NVENC have been running on Linux for a while now. I run AMD GPUs now but I'm quite done with the NVIDIA hate boner the Linux world has.