It sounds like Jeff and Danny have known each other for a couple decades, and have been working actively together on the clock for at least 5 years. It also sou

It sounds like Jeff and Danny have known each other for a couple decades, and have been working actively together on the clock for at least 5 years. It also sounds like Jeff may have had significant involvement in helping to put the team together and actually make it happen, and he's philosophically invested in its purpose.