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> How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? > What is your model for how films should get funded? The same way free-to-air TV pays for

> How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? > What is your model for how films should get funded? The same way free-to-air TV pays for itself - adverts. Either a couple of ad breaks in the film, or rotating watermarks on screen throughout the film. And make getting it easier than me finding the equivalent torrent. Release schedule - cinema, streaming, 'free'. When films aren't available on any of the streaming services I subscribe to, what do you expect me to do? Pay another £60 per annum to watch one film on a streaming service I'll never use again? I read somewhere there are 1000 streaming services in the UK, and over 2000 in the US. I've said before on here, it's a shame we didn't have today's bandwidth back in the mp3 days, because that forced the hand of the music industry to back iTunes, or Spotify, and only now they're beginning to fragment a little. If the video industry was under pressure from widescale cheap piracy, we'd have an industry wide streaming site. Instead we have Netflix, Prime, Hulu, Disney+, HBO, and so on. One day before launch Paramount pulled Star Trek Discovery off Netflix to their own streaming service. Can you guess what the most pirated TV show was over the following weeks? To be clear, I don't agree with piracy, but I have zero sympathy for movie studios and their shitty walled gardens.

latexr 5y ago
> The same way free-to-air TV pays for itself - adverts. Either a couple of ad breaks in the film, or rotating watermarks on screen throughout the film. Please no. Watching La vita è Bella[1] or a Clockwork Orange[2] and being interrupted by an ad for toothpaste or a theme park would muddy the experience. That model would make most good films unpalatable. Were that the only legal way to consume movies, piracy would continue to exist for cuts without ads. Do note that the US model of having ad breaks during an episode of a TV show isn’t in use all over the world. In Portugal, breaks happens between episodes but are longer. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Beautiful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Beautiful [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film)
- DrBazza 5y ago
  > Please no. Agreed, but how else would you release a "free" version of a movie that funds itself as per the parent comment? Watermarks are probably the optimal solution, but people are used to advert funded TV/movies.
  - chexx 5y ago
    Non-intrusive product placement. Kind of like cigarettes.
Mindwipe 5y ago
> When films aren't available on any of the streaming services I subscribe to, what do you expect me to do? Pay another £60 per annum to watch one film on a streaming service I'll never use again? I read somewhere there are 1000 streaming services in the UK, and over 2000 in the US. Yes? Especially when you actually normally are able to use a thirty day trial, or pay £5 for a single month without a rolling contract, or just don't watch the title, or go and purchase/rent it from iTunes et al? All of those are perfectly legitimate options.

latexr 5y ago

> The same way free-to-air TV pays for itself - adverts. Either a couple of ad breaks in the film, or rotating watermarks on screen throughout the film. Please no. Watching La vita è Bella[1] or a Clockwork Orange[2] and being interrupted by an ad for toothpaste or a theme park would muddy the experience. That model would make most good films unpalatable. Were that the only legal way to consume movies, piracy would continue to exist for cuts without ads. Do note that the US model of having ad breaks during an episode of a TV show isn’t in use all over the world. In Portugal, breaks happens between episodes but are longer. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Beautiful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Beautiful [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film)

DrBazza 5y ago
> Please no. Agreed, but how else would you release a "free" version of a movie that funds itself as per the parent comment? Watermarks are probably the optimal solution, but people are used to advert funded TV/movies.
- chexx 5y ago
  Non-intrusive product placement. Kind of like cigarettes.

Mindwipe 5y ago

> When films aren't available on any of the streaming services I subscribe to, what do you expect me to do? Pay another £60 per annum to watch one film on a streaming service I'll never use again? I read somewhere there are 1000 streaming services in the UK, and over 2000 in the US. Yes? Especially when you actually normally are able to use a thirty day trial, or pay £5 for a single month without a rolling contract, or just don't watch the title, or go and purchase/rent it from iTunes et al? All of those are perfectly legitimate options.