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Here’s a piece that I found, I vaguely remember there was more in that lecture on the topic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz3hBuq-Huk https://m.youtube.com/wa

Here’s a piece that I found, I vaguely remember there was more in that lecture on the topic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz3hBuq-Huk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz3hBuq-Huk While it’s possible to differentiate these two things like you mentioned, if you look at honor as a concept, it’s useful function is about curbing higher cost of distrust. And that Sapolsky does explain in the linked video.

Jon_Lowtek 5y ago
Well Sapolsky sure seems to love to make dubious absolute statements and oversimplifications in his lectures, and yet he still says that pastoral nomadic honor cultures foster strict rules of hospitality, which is not the same as hospitality in and of itself, even if it can be an amplyfiyng effect. I would be more inclined to agree that "strict rules (of hospitality)" and "violent enforcement (of subservience)" are flip sides of a coin. Note that "honor killing" is a very loaded term and quite different from domestic violence and retribution.