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Growing up poor white trash gives me a completely different perspective and makes me crass enough to say go fuck yourself you entitled prick.

sho 5y ago
- dang 5y ago
  Please do not cross into personal attack. We don't want this kind of thing here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - sho 5y ago
    Dang, look at the context. I was simply repeating his self-assessment back at him, and trying to flip it with a positive message that one's circumstances of birth do not define one's potential - unless you let it (mental prison). I feel like you've taken the exact opposite reading from what was intended. That said, when people don't understand what you're trying to say, the fault lies with you. I'll try to rethink how i can phrase this kind of thing. I was trying to challenge in a positive way but it obviously didn't come across like that.
    - dang 5y ago
      Putting a provocative spin ("you're trapped in a mental prison and proud of it") on someone's personal description and throwing it back at them is not likely to end well. When you add patronizing putdowns ("calm your jets") and outright slurs ("my poor white trash friend"—yes I know the GP used the slur, but it's very different when you use it), you're way into the territory of personal attack. That's no way to send a positive message. I'm sure you had a positive intention, but intent doesn't communicate itself on the internet. The burden is on the commenter to disambiguate: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=disambiguate%20burden%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
- leecommamichael 5y ago
  > So you're trapped in a mental prison and proud of it? Starting your reply this way is not effective if your goal is changing minds. But it isn't, is it?
  - sho 5y ago
    It is actually. And mental prisons are real, I was trapped in one for many years. I'll stipulate that i have to tweak the way I say things as it's not coming across the right way.
    - leecommamichael 5y ago
      Understood, sorry my tone wasn’t great either on my response to you.
dang 5y ago
Could you please make your substantive points without fulminating or calling names? Perhaps you don't feel you owe entitled pricks better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- mmcgaha 5y ago
  Indeed you are correct that I should not have made that post. It drags down the discussion and I would not be interested in reading a site filled with posts like that. I will keep it in check the next time I feel that snappy.

sho 5y ago

dang 5y ago
Please do not cross into personal attack. We don't want this kind of thing here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- sho 5y ago
  Dang, look at the context. I was simply repeating his self-assessment back at him, and trying to flip it with a positive message that one's circumstances of birth do not define one's potential - unless you let it (mental prison). I feel like you've taken the exact opposite reading from what was intended. That said, when people don't understand what you're trying to say, the fault lies with you. I'll try to rethink how i can phrase this kind of thing. I was trying to challenge in a positive way but it obviously didn't come across like that.
  - dang 5y ago
    Putting a provocative spin ("you're trapped in a mental prison and proud of it") on someone's personal description and throwing it back at them is not likely to end well. When you add patronizing putdowns ("calm your jets") and outright slurs ("my poor white trash friend"—yes I know the GP used the slur, but it's very different when you use it), you're way into the territory of personal attack. That's no way to send a positive message. I'm sure you had a positive intention, but intent doesn't communicate itself on the internet. The burden is on the commenter to disambiguate: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=disambiguate%20burden%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
leecommamichael 5y ago
> So you're trapped in a mental prison and proud of it? Starting your reply this way is not effective if your goal is changing minds. But it isn't, is it?
- sho 5y ago
  It is actually. And mental prisons are real, I was trapped in one for many years. I'll stipulate that i have to tweak the way I say things as it's not coming across the right way.
  - leecommamichael 5y ago
    Understood, sorry my tone wasn’t great either on my response to you.

dang 5y ago

Could you please make your substantive points without fulminating or calling names? Perhaps you don't feel you owe entitled pricks better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

mmcgaha 5y ago
Indeed you are correct that I should not have made that post. It drags down the discussion and I would not be interested in reading a site filled with posts like that. I will keep it in check the next time I feel that snappy.