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Do you have family that struggles financially, or lacks the education and training for anything more than Walmart or if really lucky a mechanic? The world you
by tomnipotent 5y ago
Do you have family that struggles financially, or lacks the education and training for anything more than Walmart or if really lucky a mechanic?
The world you live in is nothing like the people this law was designed for, where labor exploitation is rampant and worker desperation so high that you don't have the luxury to wait for new opportunities because you can't feed your family or risk being evicted.
- diob 5y agoRight, this person assumes you can just turn down a job. No, folks don't want to starve unfortunately.
- WalterBright 5y agoI've hired people for non-tech, no-skill jobs. They can and do often turn them down. They also walk off the job, never to be seen again, whenever they feel like it. I was paying above market rates, too. I mow my lawn myself because I can't get anyone to do it for less than $400/mo., and that was 5 years ago.
- diob 5y agoSome can. Not all. Step outside your bubble and talk to some vulnerable folks, life isn't so black and white for everyone.
- busterarm 5y agoTo be really honest here, New York City's labor market is famously exploitative of creatives and depending on the employer the same job can pay $200k or be an illegal internship with a metrocard stipend. I know an animator who was "interning" full-time for 12 years before someone intervened and made them speak up for themselves to demand a paying job. Good copywriters are worth every penny you can pay them, but I see loads of legitimate businesses trying to pay minimum wage for fulltimers.
- WalterBright 5y ago> legitimate businesses trying to pay minimum wage Of course. This is how supply+demand works. I'd bet every worker wants to be paid $$$$$$. The two parties then negotiate! After all, when you buy a car, do decide you're going to add $10,000 to the asking price of the car so Cratchet's commission can buy Christmas presents for Timmy? Or are you going to get the best price you can? Everyone tries to get the best price - employer, employee, salesman, customer. That's how markets work.
- busterarm 5y agoYes, but thankfully markets aren't completely free and the government sets a floor on the price of your labor and things like price gouging are illegal. And if we all had to negotiate our salaries from a minimum wage it would be an epic waste of time for both employers and job-seekers, so what point are you actually making here? I was quite directly saying that employers in creative spaces in NYC are taking advantage of salary information (or even labor law) inequality in order to exploit the people they hire. NYC has quite-rightly decided to make this illegal and is leveling the playing field somewhat.
- WalterBright 5y agoOn the other hand, employers are rapidly raising salaries lately because workers are refusing to take the jobs.
- tomnipotent 5y agoWhich is literally a once-in-a-lifetime event, fueled in no small part by the eviction moratorium.
- WalterBright 5y agoOr maybe it isn't, it's just people learning that they can say "no".
- BurningFrog 5y agoIncomes have been rising steadily since the Industrial Revolution started 250 years ago. It's not easy to compare, but we're paid 30-50 times more now.
- altpaddle 5y agoIncome for the bottom 80+% of the country has been stagnant since the 1970's.