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> awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions I'd much rather keep my choice of adblocker and browser separate. > free of the political W

> awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions I'd much rather keep my choice of adblocker and browser separate. > free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff, silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit. Neither brave or mozilla is free from controversy but from what I've seen I'd rather have mozillas than braves. Another reason to keep firefox around is to make sure we keep a somewhat independent browser engine vendor.

pcdoodle 5y ago
I want an alternative engine but Mozilla seems doomed.
basch 5y ago
But in this case there is a significant technical and speed advantage to their ad blocker. So conversely, you can choose the best ad blocker (brave) and then happen to also get a chromium instance with it.
moralestapia 5y ago
>Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff Not forced on you, and I mean it, it's just a single dialog when you install with a simple Yes/No answer. >silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit Lol, that's not even remotely true.
- SahAssar 5y ago
  > Not forced on you https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 There was also a while back when they added a new "opt-out" setting for their new tab page ads, defaulting it to accepting the ads without looking at past similar settings. > Lol, that's not even remotely true. https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff... And regarding general privacy, their adblocker and so on: https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whitelisted-by-brave-browser/ https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whi... Saying that brave is not strongly affiliated with the crypto-hype is about as truthful as saying that google is not an ad-tech company.
  - moralestapia 5y ago
    1st link is unclear as the owner deleted the original tweet ... (that means something for me as well, but w/e) About the Verge's piece, this is Eich's reponse: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192 https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192 Seems to me like an honest mistake that was quickly corrected, and Eich taking full responsability and showing face is worth a lot for me. Regarding your last article, is just a shallow sensationalist piece, take a look at the "whitelisted" domains the mention, they are places where Facebook and Twitter store their content (photos, videos, etc...) if you block that you cripple those sites, so they decided to let them go through. They even acknowledge at the end that Firefox is doing a similar thing. It makes sense to me, honestly. Sorry dude, your hand-waving arguments are futile against people who actually reason things out.

pcdoodle 5y ago

I want an alternative engine but Mozilla seems doomed.

basch 5y ago

But in this case there is a significant technical and speed advantage to their ad blocker. So conversely, you can choose the best ad blocker (brave) and then happen to also get a chromium instance with it.

moralestapia 5y ago

>Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff Not forced on you, and I mean it, it's just a single dialog when you install with a simple Yes/No answer. >silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit Lol, that's not even remotely true.

SahAssar 5y ago
> Not forced on you https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 There was also a while back when they added a new "opt-out" setting for their new tab page ads, defaulting it to accepting the ads without looking at past similar settings. > Lol, that's not even remotely true. https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff... And regarding general privacy, their adblocker and so on: https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whitelisted-by-brave-browser/ https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whi... Saying that brave is not strongly affiliated with the crypto-hype is about as truthful as saying that google is not an ad-tech company.
- moralestapia 5y ago
  1st link is unclear as the owner deleted the original tweet ... (that means something for me as well, but w/e) About the Verge's piece, this is Eich's reponse: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192 https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192 Seems to me like an honest mistake that was quickly corrected, and Eich taking full responsability and showing face is worth a lot for me. Regarding your last article, is just a shallow sensationalist piece, take a look at the "whitelisted" domains the mention, they are places where Facebook and Twitter store their content (photos, videos, etc...) if you block that you cripple those sites, so they decided to let them go through. They even acknowledge at the end that Firefox is doing a similar thing. It makes sense to me, honestly. Sorry dude, your hand-waving arguments are futile against people who actually reason things out.