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Good. Brave is a solid browser. As someone who used Firefox continuously from when it used to be called “Mozilla” until early 2020 Brave is vastly superior. -

by zionic 5y ago

Good. Brave is a solid browser. As someone who used Firefox continuously from when it used to be called “Mozilla” until early 2020 Brave is vastly superior. -better UI/UX -awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions -noticeably faster -free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox. Edit: since when do I need to Reddit space here? Maybe I don’t post lists enough and it was always this way? Edit2: Can anyone explain why more and more comment sections require double-spacing to nest properly? Seems like a HN-relevant question.

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
> awesome ad block built in and by default I used to use Brave on Android, until the day they placed an ad on the home screen (new tab page? it's been a long time), and I looked in settings and couldn't disable it, so I uninstalled it, left an honest review, and never looked back.
- cf100clunk 5y ago
  On Android have you tried the similar Bromite browser?
  - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
    I just went back to Firefox with uBo
    - cf100clunk 5y ago
      Bromite seems to me to be what Brave should have been. I install Bromite browser on all my Android devices, and if they are rooted I also install Bromite WebView using Magisk. If only Bromite had the development resources of Brave...
- emerged 5y ago
  I was super annoyed by that too, but now it’s a distant memory as I must’ve found out how to disable it. I just see a fresh blank page when I open the browser. I don’t think they bother me with anything anymore. I don’t know what list of other things are wrong with Brave, but whatever they are I don’t notice them.
- tlackemann 5y ago
  Same, tried it, hated their crypto push and ads, uninstalled and never looked back. I'll never use Brave because of their stupid default decisions like putting a "tip" button under each Tweet or random news articles. Such a shame too because otherwise it's a decent browser. That said, Firefox Quantum is vastly superior in my opinion without all the crypto bullshit.
  - aparticulate 5y ago
    I think crypto enabled by default is too bold, there isn't anything particularly bullshitty about their crypto stuff imo but people legitimately feel icky about it.
Krasnol 5y ago
> -awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions You make it sound like the "need for extensions" is something bad while having the choice and control over what Ublock blocks is something far more superior than some build in ad-blocker provided by an ad-company. > free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox. I don't see how exchanging it to the shady business practices (yes...they fixed and excused for that...after it came out) of the Brave ad-company is better. But I guess this is actually some political statement you make here.
- zionic 5y ago
  I don’t like giving questionable 3rd parties full access to my browsing data. I’d rather the browser get that right from the get go. It’s just like AV, I want Microsoft/Apple to secure their shit and not “Norton”
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    Isn’t Brave the questionable 3rd party? And Safari/Edge the better option based on that reasoning.
    - roenxi 5y ago
      No, Brave is the first party. They are the ones in control of what the web browser does.
      - lotsofpulp 5y ago
        >It’s just like AV, I want Microsoft/Apple to secure their shit and not “Norton” You can replace AV with browser and Norton with Brave in this statement.
  - Krasnol 5y ago
    > I don’t like giving questionable 3rd parties full access to my browsing data. Oh I get it now. You don't understand how ad-block extensions work. You don't give anything to anybody there. PS. Brave is your Norton.
SahAssar 5y ago
> awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions I'd much rather keep my choice of adblocker and browser separate. > free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff, silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit. Neither brave or mozilla is free from controversy but from what I've seen I'd rather have mozillas than braves. Another reason to keep firefox around is to make sure we keep a somewhat independent browser engine vendor.
- pcdoodle 5y ago
  I want an alternative engine but Mozilla seems doomed.
- basch 5y ago
  But in this case there is a significant technical and speed advantage to their ad blocker. So conversely, you can choose the best ad blocker (brave) and then happen to also get a chromium instance with it.
- moralestapia 5y ago
  >Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff Not forced on you, and I mean it, it's just a single dialog when you install with a simple Yes/No answer. >silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit Lol, that's not even remotely true.
  - SahAssar 5y ago
    > Not forced on you https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 There was also a while back when they added a new "opt-out" setting for their new tab page ads, defaulting it to accepting the ads without looking at past similar settings. > Lol, that's not even remotely true. https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff... And regarding general privacy, their adblocker and so on: https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whitelisted-by-brave-browser/ https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whi... Saying that brave is not strongly affiliated with the crypto-hype is about as truthful as saying that google is not an ad-tech company.
emptybottle 5y ago
I use Brave as an alternative to chrome, for sites that only work right in chrome. Its not perfect. The business model raises my eyebrows, but then again so does google’s. And I’m not thrilled with what mozilla is putting out. I’d love to find an alternative without the ads/crypto but for now its been a solid browser.
- RadixDLT 5y ago
  brave does not push crypto on you, you can choose to participate if you want to tip creators
devwastaken 5y ago
It's degoogled chromium with crypto propaganda attached, there's plenty of political for profit decisions being made.
- CodeGlitch 5y ago
  This is not true, they do a lot of research around security and privacy. See their blog posts, here is one to help you: https://brave.com/privacy-updates/13-pool-party-side-channels/ https://brave.com/privacy-updates/13-pool-party-side-channel...

by zionic 5y ago

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago

> awesome ad block built in and by default I used to use Brave on Android, until the day they placed an ad on the home screen (new tab page? it's been a long time), and I looked in settings and couldn't disable it, so I uninstalled it, left an honest review, and never looked back.

cf100clunk 5y ago
On Android have you tried the similar Bromite browser?
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  I just went back to Firefox with uBo
  - cf100clunk 5y ago
    Bromite seems to me to be what Brave should have been. I install Bromite browser on all my Android devices, and if they are rooted I also install Bromite WebView using Magisk. If only Bromite had the development resources of Brave...
emerged 5y ago
I was super annoyed by that too, but now it’s a distant memory as I must’ve found out how to disable it. I just see a fresh blank page when I open the browser. I don’t think they bother me with anything anymore. I don’t know what list of other things are wrong with Brave, but whatever they are I don’t notice them.
tlackemann 5y ago
Same, tried it, hated their crypto push and ads, uninstalled and never looked back. I'll never use Brave because of their stupid default decisions like putting a "tip" button under each Tweet or random news articles. Such a shame too because otherwise it's a decent browser. That said, Firefox Quantum is vastly superior in my opinion without all the crypto bullshit.
- aparticulate 5y ago
  I think crypto enabled by default is too bold, there isn't anything particularly bullshitty about their crypto stuff imo but people legitimately feel icky about it.

Krasnol 5y ago

> -awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions You make it sound like the "need for extensions" is something bad while having the choice and control over what Ublock blocks is something far more superior than some build in ad-blocker provided by an ad-company. > free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox. I don't see how exchanging it to the shady business practices (yes...they fixed and excused for that...after it came out) of the Brave ad-company is better. But I guess this is actually some political statement you make here.

zionic 5y ago
I don’t like giving questionable 3rd parties full access to my browsing data. I’d rather the browser get that right from the get go. It’s just like AV, I want Microsoft/Apple to secure their shit and not “Norton”
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  Isn’t Brave the questionable 3rd party? And Safari/Edge the better option based on that reasoning.
  - roenxi 5y ago
    No, Brave is the first party. They are the ones in control of what the web browser does.
    - lotsofpulp 5y ago
      >It’s just like AV, I want Microsoft/Apple to secure their shit and not “Norton” You can replace AV with browser and Norton with Brave in this statement.
- Krasnol 5y ago
  > I don’t like giving questionable 3rd parties full access to my browsing data. Oh I get it now. You don't understand how ad-block extensions work. You don't give anything to anybody there. PS. Brave is your Norton.

SahAssar 5y ago

> awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions I'd much rather keep my choice of adblocker and browser separate. > free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff, silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit. Neither brave or mozilla is free from controversy but from what I've seen I'd rather have mozillas than braves. Another reason to keep firefox around is to make sure we keep a somewhat independent browser engine vendor.

pcdoodle 5y ago
I want an alternative engine but Mozilla seems doomed.
basch 5y ago
But in this case there is a significant technical and speed advantage to their ad blocker. So conversely, you can choose the best ad blocker (brave) and then happen to also get a chromium instance with it.
moralestapia 5y ago
>Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff Not forced on you, and I mean it, it's just a single dialog when you install with a simple Yes/No answer. >silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit Lol, that's not even remotely true.
- SahAssar 5y ago
  > Not forced on you https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 There was also a while back when they added a new "opt-out" setting for their new tab page ads, defaulting it to accepting the ads without looking at past similar settings. > Lol, that's not even remotely true. https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff... And regarding general privacy, their adblocker and so on: https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whitelisted-by-brave-browser/ https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whi... Saying that brave is not strongly affiliated with the crypto-hype is about as truthful as saying that google is not an ad-tech company.

emptybottle 5y ago

I use Brave as an alternative to chrome, for sites that only work right in chrome. Its not perfect. The business model raises my eyebrows, but then again so does google’s. And I’m not thrilled with what mozilla is putting out. I’d love to find an alternative without the ads/crypto but for now its been a solid browser.

RadixDLT 5y ago
brave does not push crypto on you, you can choose to participate if you want to tip creators

devwastaken 5y ago

It's degoogled chromium with crypto propaganda attached, there's plenty of political for profit decisions being made.

CodeGlitch 5y ago
This is not true, they do a lot of research around security and privacy. See their blog posts, here is one to help you: https://brave.com/privacy-updates/13-pool-party-side-channels/ https://brave.com/privacy-updates/13-pool-party-side-channel...