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>So I think I will not respond to this thread again. Ok, you won't be missed (nor remembered), pathetic leftist gate-keeper of the word anarchism. Hopefully y

>So I think I will not respond to this thread again. Ok, you won't be missed (nor remembered), pathetic leftist gate-keeper of the word anarchism. Hopefully you find a True Scotsman worthy of the title.

kragen 5y ago
You are of course free to use words to mean whatever you want, but if you choose to use "anarchism" to mean a non-leftist ideology, you should expect that most people will misunderstand you; in some cases that can slide into deliberate deception, though I don't think that's your intention here. You aren't the first, of course; Rothbard and arguably Spooner understood anarchism in the same way you do, though Spooner belonged to the First International. But when you slide into attacking people as "pathetic" because they use the word in its mainstream sense, you're tempting people to label you as a troll. Please don't do that.
- notch656a 5y ago
  Oh so you are back. You're a liar too. Pathetic. I use that word because of your gate-keeping, not because of your brand of anarchism. > choose to use "anarchism" to mean a non-leftist ideology I thought using leftist was offensive (even though I didn't mean it offensively) and you asked me not to? You're a hypocrite too. >you should expect that most people will misunderstand you I expect you will misunderstand because of your willful ignorance of the term. Calling it 'hijacking' is a lot different than calling it different from whatever looks mainstream to you. There is no mainstream brand of anarchism, it's an ideology without coercion that can manifest in many ways. Spare me the speech about politeness. You called me a hijacker of a term and say "I think I know this." No I do not, in fact I know the opposite. I think you're an arrogant and self-serving keeper of the word anarchism, one who tries to hide their vulgarity in pretty language and has the gaul to act like a victim for a curt retort.
  - kragen 5y ago
    Please don't leave comments like this.
    - notch656a 5y ago
      Listen Kragen, I do feel bad I misattributed many things to you because after a long back and forth thread I _thought_ I was still talking to denton-scratch but it was actually Kragen. I appreciate your thoughts and insight, even this one. And you have my sincere apology for the mis-attribution to you based on my mistaken thought you were denton-scratch. Do not expect me to censor myself going forward, however. I understand that could result in being banned. I'm OK with that, as I'm not really interested in communicating in a place with censorship.
- notch656a 5y ago
  Edit: My apologies to Kragen for the stuff I misattributed to him. It was a long back and forth thread between us two and I didn't realize you had interjected at the end. My mind was locked into thinking I was in conversation with denton-scratch. I admit my use of "pathetic" was self-defense from being accused of being a hijacker, which I found to be a personal attack against something objectively untrue based on the Oxford English definition of the word "anarchism."

kragen 5y ago

You are of course free to use words to mean whatever you want, but if you choose to use "anarchism" to mean a non-leftist ideology, you should expect that most people will misunderstand you; in some cases that can slide into deliberate deception, though I don't think that's your intention here. You aren't the first, of course; Rothbard and arguably Spooner understood anarchism in the same way you do, though Spooner belonged to the First International. But when you slide into attacking people as "pathetic" because they use the word in its mainstream sense, you're tempting people to label you as a troll. Please don't do that.

notch656a 5y ago
Oh so you are back. You're a liar too. Pathetic. I use that word because of your gate-keeping, not because of your brand of anarchism. > choose to use "anarchism" to mean a non-leftist ideology I thought using leftist was offensive (even though I didn't mean it offensively) and you asked me not to? You're a hypocrite too. >you should expect that most people will misunderstand you I expect you will misunderstand because of your willful ignorance of the term. Calling it 'hijacking' is a lot different than calling it different from whatever looks mainstream to you. There is no mainstream brand of anarchism, it's an ideology without coercion that can manifest in many ways. Spare me the speech about politeness. You called me a hijacker of a term and say "I think I know this." No I do not, in fact I know the opposite. I think you're an arrogant and self-serving keeper of the word anarchism, one who tries to hide their vulgarity in pretty language and has the gaul to act like a victim for a curt retort.
- kragen 5y ago
  Please don't leave comments like this.
  - notch656a 5y ago
    Listen Kragen, I do feel bad I misattributed many things to you because after a long back and forth thread I _thought_ I was still talking to denton-scratch but it was actually Kragen. I appreciate your thoughts and insight, even this one. And you have my sincere apology for the mis-attribution to you based on my mistaken thought you were denton-scratch. Do not expect me to censor myself going forward, however. I understand that could result in being banned. I'm OK with that, as I'm not really interested in communicating in a place with censorship.
notch656a 5y ago
Edit: My apologies to Kragen for the stuff I misattributed to him. It was a long back and forth thread between us two and I didn't realize you had interjected at the end. My mind was locked into thinking I was in conversation with denton-scratch. I admit my use of "pathetic" was self-defense from being accused of being a hijacker, which I found to be a personal attack against something objectively untrue based on the Oxford English definition of the word "anarchism."