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Brave Passes 50M Monthly Active User
- supperburg 5y agoHow? Browsers need to die. Move all Js to apps and have browsers just display images/video/text in the way that we have found applies to 99% of modern use cases. The only reason Js existed was to afford more flexibility in the time that we didn’t know yet how the web would be used. Move all the code into apps where sandboxing/reputation can handle the security issues more effectively than Js.
- bobthebuilders 5y agoWe already have this. It's called Electron. It's not really a solution imo.
- seniorivn 5y agothere is a downside to it, platforms nowdays are so closed off that bloated web can be both cheaper and more competitive option
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- zionic 5y agoGood. Brave is a solid browser. As someone who used Firefox continuously from when it used to be called “Mozilla” until early 2020 Brave is vastly superior. -better UI/UX -awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions -noticeably faster -free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox. Edit: since when do I need to Reddit space here? Maybe I don’t post lists enough and it was always this way? Edit2: Can anyone explain why more and more comment sections require double-spacing to nest properly? Seems like a HN-relevant question.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago> awesome ad block built in and by default I used to use Brave on Android, until the day they placed an ad on the home screen (new tab page? it's been a long time), and I looked in settings and couldn't disable it, so I uninstalled it, left an honest review, and never looked back.
- cf100clunk 5y agoOn Android have you tried the similar Bromite browser?
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y agoI just went back to Firefox with uBo
- cf100clunk 5y agoBromite seems to me to be what Brave should have been. I install Bromite browser on all my Android devices, and if they are rooted I also install Bromite WebView using Magisk. If only Bromite had the development resources of Brave...
- emerged 5y agoI was super annoyed by that too, but now it’s a distant memory as I must’ve found out how to disable it. I just see a fresh blank page when I open the browser. I don’t think they bother me with anything anymore. I don’t know what list of other things are wrong with Brave, but whatever they are I don’t notice them.
- tlackemann 5y agoSame, tried it, hated their crypto push and ads, uninstalled and never looked back. I'll never use Brave because of their stupid default decisions like putting a "tip" button under each Tweet or random news articles. Such a shame too because otherwise it's a decent browser. That said, Firefox Quantum is vastly superior in my opinion without all the crypto bullshit.
- Krasnol 5y ago> -awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions You make it sound like the "need for extensions" is something bad while having the choice and control over what Ublock blocks is something far more superior than some build in ad-blocker provided by an ad-company. > free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox. I don't see how exchanging it to the shady business practices (yes...they fixed and excused for that...after it came out) of the Brave ad-company is better. But I guess this is actually some political statement you make here.
- zionic 5y agoI don’t like giving questionable 3rd parties full access to my browsing data. I’d rather the browser get that right from the get go. It’s just like AV, I want Microsoft/Apple to secure their shit and not “Norton”
- lotsofpulp 5y agoIsn’t Brave the questionable 3rd party? And Safari/Edge the better option based on that reasoning.
- roenxi 5y agoNo, Brave is the first party. They are the ones in control of what the web browser does.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago>It’s just like AV, I want Microsoft/Apple to secure their shit and not “Norton” You can replace AV with browser and Norton with Brave in this statement.
- Krasnol 5y ago> I don’t like giving questionable 3rd parties full access to my browsing data. Oh I get it now. You don't understand how ad-block extensions work. You don't give anything to anybody there. PS. Brave is your Norton.
- SahAssar 5y ago> awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions I'd much rather keep my choice of adblocker and browser separate. > free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff, silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit. Neither brave or mozilla is free from controversy but from what I've seen I'd rather have mozillas than braves. Another reason to keep firefox around is to make sure we keep a somewhat independent browser engine vendor.
- pcdoodle 5y agoI want an alternative engine but Mozilla seems doomed.
- basch 5y agoBut in this case there is a significant technical and speed advantage to their ad blocker. So conversely, you can choose the best ad blocker (brave) and then happen to also get a chromium instance with it.
- moralestapia 5y ago>Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff Not forced on you, and I mean it, it's just a single dialog when you install with a simple Yes/No answer. >silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit Lol, that's not even remotely true.
- SahAssar 5y ago> Not forced on you https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 There was also a while back when they added a new "opt-out" setting for their new tab page ads, defaulting it to accepting the ads without looking at past similar settings. > Lol, that's not even remotely true. https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff... And regarding general privacy, their adblocker and so on: https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whitelisted-by-brave-browser/ https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whi... Saying that brave is not strongly affiliated with the crypto-hype is about as truthful as saying that google is not an ad-tech company.
- emptybottle 5y agoI use Brave as an alternative to chrome, for sites that only work right in chrome. Its not perfect. The business model raises my eyebrows, but then again so does google’s. And I’m not thrilled with what mozilla is putting out. I’d love to find an alternative without the ads/crypto but for now its been a solid browser.
- RadixDLT 5y agobrave does not push crypto on you, you can choose to participate if you want to tip creators
- devwastaken 5y agoIt's degoogled chromium with crypto propaganda attached, there's plenty of political for profit decisions being made.
- CodeGlitch 5y agoThis is not true, they do a lot of research around security and privacy. See their blog posts, here is one to help you: https://brave.com/privacy-updates/13-pool-party-side-channels/ https://brave.com/privacy-updates/13-pool-party-side-channel...
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- pcdoodle 5y agoNow my main browser for 6 months. Running with uBlock Orgin, it's the bees knees.
- RadixDLT 5y agoyou don't need uBlock, brave already has ad blocking
- BuckRogers 5y agoI used Firefox for 19 years. Just left for Edge in August 2021. They just kept cutting features. I'm not someone that thinks alternate rendering engines are relevant... userbases are, that's where power comes from. I also wanted to move to my native browser, get the benefits of the billion dollars pumped into Chromium, and move to a major vendor for longterm support and advanced features. That said, in my quest to find a new home, Brave came in a close 2nd. It's the only non-niche browser other than FF that's open source. Open source transparency with a focus on privacy? Everyone should be signing up by default. And the only one of those two built on Chromium, which fighting ~70% of the web on that has become pretty ridiculous. Brave is the only place if you want the best of every world. I am firmly in the Edge camp, because other things matter to me as well that I won't go on at length here, but Brave is the only other browser I'll be keeping tabs on. Congrats to Eich and the squad!
- belter 5y agoVivaldi is the better option. Please change my mind.
- silisili 5y agoVivaldi's UI is much, much slower on the desktop, at least in Linux.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y agoClosed source is a deal-breaker for some of us.
- belter 5y agoFair comment. However Vivaldi provides this https://vivaldi.com/source/ https://vivaldi.com/source/ And I guess if you just download Brave you dont know from which source code was built.
- waffle_maniac 5y ago> And I guess if you just download Brave you dont know from which source code was built. You have pretty good guarantees.
- hunterb123 5y agoThis is about Brave. Change my mind Vivaldi is better if you want to assert your opinion. Tor, Webtorrent support are nice. Not sure if Vivaldi does this. edit: No I doubt it's about someone's emotional hissy fit post w/ 18.1k views and 31 likes.
- belter 5y agoMaybe its the issue of trust? https://community.brave.com/t/why-i-stopped-using-brave-browser/132626 https://community.brave.com/t/why-i-stopped-using-brave-brow... Edit: No really...its the issue of trust to start with: "On 6 June 2020, a Twitter user pointed out that Brave inserts affiliate referral codes when users type a URL of Binance into the address bar, which earns Brave money. Further research revealed that Brave redirects the URLs of other cryptocurrency exchange websites, too. In response to the backlash from the users, Brave's CEO apologized and called it a "mistake" and said "we're correcting..." "Controversies" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controvers...
- topspin 5y agoBrave needs to provide it's own app store.
- RadixDLT 5y agoagreed, and the apps/extensions should be able to develop using javascript
- freitasm 5y agoAnd yet, one of the main features to benefit publishers is dead on arrival - for example I get paid by Google AdSense about 300 times more than Brave's Basic Attention Token on a monthly basis. They do a great job at blocking ads. They do a good job at pushing their own crypto ads but their Brave Rewards idea of rewarding publishers based on a monthly contribution from the community never quite worked because, really people want to block ads and are not interested in paying for the content via a wallet that requires you to exchange hard cash for tokens that you can't withdraw and can't control where it goes. Actually moved from being a long time Google Chrome user to Edge Chromium.
- waffle_maniac 5y ago> really people want to block ads and are not interested in paying for the content via a wallet that requires you to exchange hard cash for tokens that you can't withdraw and can't control where it goes. I earn BAT and give it away. No KYC required. There are some greedy users. But those would block AdSense regardless of Brave and you would get nothing anyway.
- jsnell 5y agoWhat's the DAU of all browsers combined? I'd guess something like 2 billion. Given the stats from the OP, Brave should account for <1% of usage. Them managing to pay out .33% especially given how immature their business model is sounds incredibly good.
- kashura 5y agoI would gladly switch but Firefox Containers are irreplaceable.
- effie 5y agoHow so? You can instead run multiple isolated instances of Firefox, at least on unixes.
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- _yoqn 5y agoI think Brave is a GREAT option for this scenario: Typical Chrome user decides they want to start moving away from Google. They rely on a ton of Chrome extensions so don't want to switch to Firefox or Safari or some other walled garden. Brave is a good drop in replacement for Chrome as it's compatible with the app store and runs on Chromium. Add uBlock Origin and EFF Privacy Badger, they're in great ad-blocking shape. The ads are opt-out, Brave Rewards is also opt-out and you can even turn off the button for it in the app tray. You can stop the "new tab" ads and also turn off the "cards" for their crypto stuff. I heard allegations of including their own affiliate links in typed URLs. I don't care one iota. If it doesn't raise my price then that's between Brave and whatever company. I don't care if they are destroying the internet ad industry. There are more important things to worry about like not letting my personal or professional life become the subject of nation state spy campaigns and Big Tech overlordship.
- philonoist 5y agoBrave blocks advertisements very aggressively and lets us tone down it to uBO level. Brave is also notorious for not listening to user feature requests. Vivaldi is more receptive. I hope there is a [maximum Rust and minimum JS] browser. Our world of problems would get solved.
- waffle_maniac 5y agoBrave is a small company. It certainly doesn't have the resources like Chrome does. Give it time.
- Dah00n 5y agoI would not trust my browsing to someone with their history. I'd even pick Edge before Brave but for now I use Firefox and I doubt that will change.
- 5350-uiop-1130 5y agofor me its a no-brainer, i spend 6-8 hours on the browser p/d and with brave i'm getting bat tokens in exchange all browsers are shady, ff paying ceo huge sums, chrome being evil, brave ceo political beliefs - so at least im getting something in return i will never use edge, microsoft is and always has been an evil company - and no amount of virtue signalling will change that