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It's amazing how we can rewrite history so fast. The number of times I see on Twitter people from different countries saying the same things, first it was "nobo

It's amazing how we can rewrite history so fast. The number of times I see on Twitter people from different countries saying the same things, first it was "nobody ever said this vaccine will be 90% efficient against getting covid", then "nobody ever said the vaccine reduce transmission", and now it's "the vaccines have always be only to reduce ICU stays". (I am vaccinated btw)

Izkata 5y ago
It's more like people are realizing what the original claims from Nov 2020 were instead of blindly trusting politicians. Pfizer and Moderna only checked for symptomatic covid in those trials and never made claims about infection/transmission. That was all assumptions people were making over 2021.
- javagram 5y ago
  back in early 2021 I remember the media, especially the "MSM," warning that the vaccines weren't guaranteed to prevent transmission, and commentators arguing that the media were scaremongering and we should be secure in feeling the vaccines do prevent all infection and transmission. E.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/23/opinion/covid-vaccines-transmission.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/23/opinion/covid-vaccines-tr... "Many scientists are reluctant to say with certainty that the vaccines prevent transmission of the virus from one person to another. [. . .] There should be more data within the next couple of months. Until then, precautionary measures like masking and distancing in the presence of unvaccinated people will remain important." FWIW, it seems like those commentators who were actually right until Delta emerged. Looking at graph of Covid cases in the USA for example we were on track to low case levels until July, then the Delta variant began to break through in vaccinated individuals and the epidemic grew in size again.
  - Izkata 5y ago
    > Looking at graph of Covid cases in the USA for example we were on track to low case levels until July Gotta compare 2021 to the the curves from 2020 though: It's the same shape with different magnitude. Looks more like that drop in the spring and early summer was because it's seasonal than anything else, which we misattributed to the vaccines.

Izkata 5y ago

It's more like people are realizing what the original claims from Nov 2020 were instead of blindly trusting politicians. Pfizer and Moderna only checked for symptomatic covid in those trials and never made claims about infection/transmission. That was all assumptions people were making over 2021.

javagram 5y ago
back in early 2021 I remember the media, especially the "MSM," warning that the vaccines weren't guaranteed to prevent transmission, and commentators arguing that the media were scaremongering and we should be secure in feeling the vaccines do prevent all infection and transmission. E.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/23/opinion/covid-vaccines-transmission.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/23/opinion/covid-vaccines-tr... "Many scientists are reluctant to say with certainty that the vaccines prevent transmission of the virus from one person to another. [. . .] There should be more data within the next couple of months. Until then, precautionary measures like masking and distancing in the presence of unvaccinated people will remain important." FWIW, it seems like those commentators who were actually right until Delta emerged. Looking at graph of Covid cases in the USA for example we were on track to low case levels until July, then the Delta variant began to break through in vaccinated individuals and the epidemic grew in size again.
- Izkata 5y ago
  > Looking at graph of Covid cases in the USA for example we were on track to low case levels until July Gotta compare 2021 to the the curves from 2020 though: It's the same shape with different magnitude. Looks more like that drop in the spring and early summer was because it's seasonal than anything else, which we misattributed to the vaccines.