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2019 I would have agreed with you. Duterte was a standalone nutcase. 2022 it looks like Austria, Holland, Australia, Italy, France and nordic leaders are ta

2019 I would have agreed with you. Duterte was a standalone nutcase. 2022 it looks like Austria, Holland, Australia, Italy, France and nordic leaders are taking notes from this dunderhead. Swedens new PM seems particularily keen to add a little late covid terror to otherwize pretty sheltered Swedish population. She recently proclaimed no vaccinated should have to sit next to an unvaccinated person. Its not arresting them, but most definetly dehumanize them enough to justify inhumane restrictions. Italy has mandated vaccinations for persons over 50. Is that not the same thing as Dutertes arrest ?

dragontamer 5y ago
> Is that not the same thing as Dutertes arrest ? Are these other officials literally paying assassins to kill people on the street extrajudiciously? If not, any comparison to Duterte is a rather feeble comparison. The context of Duterte's reign is greater than just the words he says in English (Especially since the native tongue of the country is Tagalog). -------- Lets put this in terms of "The Godfather" if you've seen the movie. If you hear "I'm going to make you an offer you can't refuse" from a mafia boss, it means something completely different than when a normal person says those words. That's Duterte in a nutshell. The words being spoken and the message it contains are two different things. If Duterte says something in English, its aimed at the international community. Enough Filipinos will hear the message too (English-fluency is pretty common... but its not universal!). Duterte is saying 'I'm doing what I can to cut back on COVID19' internationally, but I wouldn't really pay attention to it from a domestic perspective.
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JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> Is that not the same thing as Dutertes arrest ? In case this isn't facetious, no, it's not. Arrest deploys the state's monopoly on violence. Barring someone from public spaces does not. Fines and employment restrictions are in between, but (a) are not comparable in the way being fired and being jailed aren't comparable and (b) still leaves one free to e.g. play typhoid Mary on one's own property and dime.
- xkbarkar 5y ago
  Sounds to me like you agree with Duterte. Unvaccinated are, typhoid Maries? Also, what exactly do you think mandatory vaccination entails? Draghi sending nonno a stern warning letter? Wake up. You are supporting people who are well on their way of becoming this doofus horrible excuse of a man. You just think your methods are more justified. None og the measure, not the ones you support, nor Dutertes stop c19 though. Just add to the dehumanization that has been prevalent among us for a very long time. And we all know where that leads.

dragontamer 5y ago

> Is that not the same thing as Dutertes arrest ? Are these other officials literally paying assassins to kill people on the street extrajudiciously? If not, any comparison to Duterte is a rather feeble comparison. The context of Duterte's reign is greater than just the words he says in English (Especially since the native tongue of the country is Tagalog). -------- Lets put this in terms of "The Godfather" if you've seen the movie. If you hear "I'm going to make you an offer you can't refuse" from a mafia boss, it means something completely different than when a normal person says those words. That's Duterte in a nutshell. The words being spoken and the message it contains are two different things. If Duterte says something in English, its aimed at the international community. Enough Filipinos will hear the message too (English-fluency is pretty common... but its not universal!). Duterte is saying 'I'm doing what I can to cut back on COVID19' internationally, but I wouldn't really pay attention to it from a domestic perspective.

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JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> Is that not the same thing as Dutertes arrest ? In case this isn't facetious, no, it's not. Arrest deploys the state's monopoly on violence. Barring someone from public spaces does not. Fines and employment restrictions are in between, but (a) are not comparable in the way being fired and being jailed aren't comparable and (b) still leaves one free to e.g. play typhoid Mary on one's own property and dime.

xkbarkar 5y ago
Sounds to me like you agree with Duterte. Unvaccinated are, typhoid Maries? Also, what exactly do you think mandatory vaccination entails? Draghi sending nonno a stern warning letter? Wake up. You are supporting people who are well on their way of becoming this doofus horrible excuse of a man. You just think your methods are more justified. None og the measure, not the ones you support, nor Dutertes stop c19 though. Just add to the dehumanization that has been prevalent among us for a very long time. And we all know where that leads.