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Hang on there. This is always been about voluntary involvement. You are completely free to ignore cryptocurrency. There is no coercion at all. Nobody is trying

Hang on there. This is always been about voluntary involvement. You are completely free to ignore cryptocurrency. There is no coercion at all. Nobody is trying to suppress anything. You are free to believe, transact or vote for whomever you like. There is no loss of democratic choice. The ideology is completely voluntary. The good thing about the parallel economies is we can both have it. You can have your rapidly inflating made up Euro, manipulated by your elected and unelected politicians and Bitcoiners can divide everything of value on the planet by 21M BTC. Thing is, as the fiat gets worse and worse, more people will choose to save in things like Bitcoin. Are you familiar with Gresham’s Law? You are trying to word this like folks are pushing this on you. Nothing is further from the case. Opt-in. I’m not defining the people as anything. Everyone is free to believe whatever they wish.

malermeister 5y ago
By creating a shadow currency you are undermining the one we democratically agreed on. Your opt-in is actively harmful to democratic society. You're saying "don't worry, you don't need to break the social contract, but we will and we'll make it easy for others to do so, too. And if our sabotage makes everything collapse, well I guess that proves we were right all along. wink"
- randomhodler84 5y ago
  This is quite inconsistent. so the emperor has no clothes. If fiat cannot survive in the presence of cryptocurrency, it is not cryptocurrency that is sabotaging anything. Either it can exist with it, or it will die by its own death. The irony of course is that I have been saying cryptocurrency is voluntary; and you have been saying fiat only is mandatory. Who’s pushing their authoritarian agenda now.
  - malermeister 5y ago
    > If a building cannot survive in the presence of people setting up explosions at its base, it is not the terrorists that are sabotaging anything. Either it can exist with it, or it will die by its own death. The irony of course is that I have been saying terrorism is voluntary; and you have been saying wanting to live in peace is mandatory.
    - randomhodler84 5y ago
      Dude, I think you might be a little obsessed with violence. We are talking about open source software. I have no idea where you are going with this. Chill out. Let the nerds have their math money and live and let live.

malermeister 5y ago

By creating a shadow currency you are undermining the one we democratically agreed on. Your opt-in is actively harmful to democratic society. You're saying "don't worry, you don't need to break the social contract, but we will and we'll make it easy for others to do so, too. And if our sabotage makes everything collapse, well I guess that proves we were right all along. wink"

randomhodler84 5y ago
This is quite inconsistent. so the emperor has no clothes. If fiat cannot survive in the presence of cryptocurrency, it is not cryptocurrency that is sabotaging anything. Either it can exist with it, or it will die by its own death. The irony of course is that I have been saying cryptocurrency is voluntary; and you have been saying fiat only is mandatory. Who’s pushing their authoritarian agenda now.
- malermeister 5y ago
  > If a building cannot survive in the presence of people setting up explosions at its base, it is not the terrorists that are sabotaging anything. Either it can exist with it, or it will die by its own death. The irony of course is that I have been saying terrorism is voluntary; and you have been saying wanting to live in peace is mandatory.
  - randomhodler84 5y ago
    Dude, I think you might be a little obsessed with violence. We are talking about open source software. I have no idea where you are going with this. Chill out. Let the nerds have their math money and live and let live.