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I guess you are correct and I agree with your reasoning, but one thing I'd like to add to the discussion as a point is that it's difficult to measure in a scien
by fb03 5y ago
I guess you are correct and I agree with your reasoning, but one thing I'd like to add to the discussion as a point is that it's difficult to measure in a scientific way the proportion of people that 'state' they want to die that actually want to die for real.
Depression and anxiety are very crippling illnesses and there are times that people that are burdened by these illnesses really feel like they want to die or just disappear or stop "ticking", but when faced with a real life chance of that happening (inside an airplane with lots of turbulence going on), they shudder in terror. Sadly, scientifically measuring that intent vs statement to the point we would be able to discern if the actual intent alone could trigger bodily changes that would enable us to just 'lay down and die' is nigh on impossible, unless we find a way around our consciousness (like an out-of-ego debug "port") to measure stuff without warning our ego that we are measuring stuff. Complicated :-)
- bigmattystyles 5y agoanecdotal: It's very revealing to be very depressed with occasional panic attacks. When depressed, while not necessarily wanting to die, I would simply not want to be. Yet, sometimes, a panic attack would sneak in and I would momentarily (15-60m) be terrified of dying and not being. After its passing, it would be straight back to being very depressed. It's an awful state of being but illuminating at how much brain state matters to perception. It's obvious, but experiencing it is jarring. For the record, I'm doing very well now, thanks SSRIs...