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I want to lookup data on the average age of unvaxed patients currently in the ICU but so far have not found any.

sudosysgen 5y ago
That's not the metric you should look for (at least you don't need to). You should look at the average age of unvaccinated people. That way you can estimate the prior probability of infection. You can go here: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/ https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-cover... From that, you can figure out that there are more people unvaccinated under 12 years old, than in the entire rest of the population, by a large margins - out of 7.6 million people without full vaccination, 2.9 million are between 5 and 11 years old, and 1.9 million people are under 5 years old. So out of the 7.6 million people who aren't fully vaccinated, 4.8 million are under 12 years old! And from 2.8 million remaining, 430k of those are under 18, and 1.0 million are under 30. From this, we can figure out that the pre-vaccine hospitalization risk for the unvaccinated population is much, much lower than for the normal population. This is without taking into account health status, of course! Quebec publishes age-ajusted hospitalization rates per vaccine status, the latest number is a 7.7x odds ratio, which would be even worse for the ICU : https://mobile.twitter.com/sante_qc/status/1479122568166748160/photo/1 https://mobile.twitter.com/sante_qc/status/14791225681667481...
- cosmiccrisp 5y ago
  Its good to see that its mostly young people who are at lower risk that are of the unvaxed, however the majority of ICU cases in Canada are still of the unvaxed, so that's why I am curious what is the average age of the unvaxed in the ICU. If 92-99% of people over 60 are vaxed, but its the 60+ demographic of unvaxed taking up ICU spaces, what more can be demanded by the government? Forcing younger people who are unvaxed might not reduce ICU cases very much.

That's not the metric you should look for (at least you don't need to). You should look at the average age of unvaccinated people. That way you can estimate the prior probability of infection. You can go here: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/ https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-cover... From that, you can figure out that there are more people unvaccinated under 12 years old, than in the entire rest of the population, by a large margins - out of 7.6 million people without full vaccination, 2.9 million are between 5 and 11 years old, and 1.9 million people are under 5 years old. So out of the 7.6 million people who aren't fully vaccinated, 4.8 million are under 12 years old! And from 2.8 million remaining, 430k of those are under 18, and 1.0 million are under 30. From this, we can figure out that the pre-vaccine hospitalization risk for the unvaccinated population is much, much lower than for the normal population. This is without taking into account health status, of course! Quebec publishes age-ajusted hospitalization rates per vaccine status, the latest number is a 7.7x odds ratio, which would be even worse for the ICU : https://mobile.twitter.com/sante_qc/status/1479122568166748160/photo/1 https://mobile.twitter.com/sante_qc/status/14791225681667481...

cosmiccrisp 5y ago
Its good to see that its mostly young people who are at lower risk that are of the unvaxed, however the majority of ICU cases in Canada are still of the unvaxed, so that's why I am curious what is the average age of the unvaxed in the ICU. If 92-99% of people over 60 are vaxed, but its the 60+ demographic of unvaxed taking up ICU spaces, what more can be demanded by the government? Forcing younger people who are unvaxed might not reduce ICU cases very much.