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You are suggesting that a service that has no idea of what your business is should curate your data and "simply drop it"? yikes.
by YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
You are suggesting that a service that has no idea of what your business is should curate your data and "simply drop it"? yikes.
- ejb999 5y ago>>You are suggesting that a service that has no idea of what your business is should curate your data and "simply drop it"? yikes. As opposed to just shutting down the customer because TWILIO forwarded the spam, that we already know that it can detect?
- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y agoIf you have a business that deals with spam texts or if you host a honeypot for whatever reason you are allowed to do it. You are allowed to receive spam and do whatever you want with it except sending spam over twilio itself because it's against their ToS and to protect their own core business from getting their numbers blacklisted.
- em-bee 5y agoif twilio can not differentiate between inbound messages that are being forwarded and outbound messages that are created by the twilio customer then their service can't guarantee to be reliable because someone could basically create a DOS attack by sending spam to any twilio customer expecting that twilio will blame their customer and suspend the account.
- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y agoIt's not their job to differentiate they are just a carrier they scan for outgoing spam to protect their own core business and to not get blacklisted everywhere. Read the ToS they are pretty specific about it.
- em-bee 5y agobut then they are simply not suitable for the use case of forwarding inbound messages because the risk is to great that i'll get shut down just because i am receiving spam.
- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y agoYes.
- mbreese 5y agoThe are otherwise curating the data and calling it spam on the outbound, so… yes?
- eropple 5y agoThey're receiving the spam because it's sent to the customer. They're sending spam when the customer asks. They're also deciding that that customer is a customer no longer because of the choices that customer made with regards to sending spam, not receiving spam. These are pretty different things.
- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y agoBecause they have made it pretty clear in their ToS that it is forbidden to send any form of spam over their network.
- Turing_Machine 5y agoUmm... "curating the data" is exactly what they're doing when they ban the customer for forwarding spam that originated from their system.
- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y agotwilio might not care but the carriers the messages get send to will.