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>Don't ever give a salary history if asked. Very true. I believe NYC banned companies from asking for salary history a few years back. I was interviewing at a

>Don't ever give a salary history if asked. Very true. I believe NYC banned companies from asking for salary history a few years back. I was interviewing at a bank in NYC. I attempted to negotiate a salary about $20k - $30k from what I was making at the time, and the response from the interviewer was positive. I was then blindsided by the interviewer (who would've been my boss) after he asked what my current salary is and I let it slip out because I didn't know that it was illegal in NYC at the time to ask salary history. Afterwards, he said "huh, that's a big clip up, I think $X would be a bit more reasonable."

aynyc 5y ago
It's the entire STATE. The interviewer would've been in huge trouble if you report them.
- ne0flex 5y ago
  I didn't realize it was the entire state that banned the practice. Good to know. I wonder, if a prospective employer were to ask you about salary history, what would be a good way to turn them down? I'm sure there are many employers that aren't aware that this has been outlawed. At the same time, I'm wondering, if you could lie and inflate your salary should you be asked about salary history by a prospective employer, given that they wouldn't be able to legally verify what you told them.
  - SauciestGNU 5y ago
    Employers generally fuck us every way they can, then go innovate some more. When it comes to negotiating compensation, use every tactic available, including lies, doctoring old payslips, leveraging offers against each other. I truly do not believe it is possible to act unethically when attempting to extract fair pay from employers.
- gjs278 5y ago
poulsbohemian 5y ago
>a salary about $20k - $30k When I have the opportunity, I talk about this kind of thing with young professionals. They think that sounds like a lot of money, because they don't understand that's a rounding error to a large company. It's really cruel the way as a society we take kids making minimum wage at whatever first job, they get a degree, and then they get thrust out into Corporate America with no idea of what things cost or their own value. Unless they have the right mentors to encourage them to ask for more, they get whatever the company gives them. I was negotiating a contract recently on behalf of a client and they wondered how much they should ask for - I helped them get a meaningful credit because I knew it was an amount of money the other party would be willing to absorb rather than fight about.
- HWR_14 5y ago
  You missed the second half of the quote. It is clear he was talking about a salary 20-30k above what he was already making. Now, you may point out that's still not a lot of money, but it's not a salary in the 20-30k range. He then said that he answered the question of what he made, was told a $20k bump was to much, and was offered a lower (X,000) bump instead because they assumed that's all they needed to do.
  - poulsbohemian 5y ago
    No, I didn’t miss it and it doesn’t change my point - asking for a $20k raise is peanuts.
    - HWR_14 5y ago
      It doesn't change your point, but the way you cut quote was misleading.
    - dymk 5y ago
      No, it's not, because companies hire more than 1 person.
- sangnoir 5y ago
  Individual departments (cost centers) often have salary budgets - this motivates some managers to be penny-pinchers - save $10k here, $20k there, in no time you have enough budget for another warm body!

aynyc 5y ago

It's the entire STATE. The interviewer would've been in huge trouble if you report them.

ne0flex 5y ago
I didn't realize it was the entire state that banned the practice. Good to know. I wonder, if a prospective employer were to ask you about salary history, what would be a good way to turn them down? I'm sure there are many employers that aren't aware that this has been outlawed. At the same time, I'm wondering, if you could lie and inflate your salary should you be asked about salary history by a prospective employer, given that they wouldn't be able to legally verify what you told them.
- SauciestGNU 5y ago
  Employers generally fuck us every way they can, then go innovate some more. When it comes to negotiating compensation, use every tactic available, including lies, doctoring old payslips, leveraging offers against each other. I truly do not believe it is possible to act unethically when attempting to extract fair pay from employers.
gjs278 5y ago

poulsbohemian 5y ago

>a salary about $20k - $30k When I have the opportunity, I talk about this kind of thing with young professionals. They think that sounds like a lot of money, because they don't understand that's a rounding error to a large company. It's really cruel the way as a society we take kids making minimum wage at whatever first job, they get a degree, and then they get thrust out into Corporate America with no idea of what things cost or their own value. Unless they have the right mentors to encourage them to ask for more, they get whatever the company gives them. I was negotiating a contract recently on behalf of a client and they wondered how much they should ask for - I helped them get a meaningful credit because I knew it was an amount of money the other party would be willing to absorb rather than fight about.

HWR_14 5y ago
You missed the second half of the quote. It is clear he was talking about a salary 20-30k above what he was already making. Now, you may point out that's still not a lot of money, but it's not a salary in the 20-30k range. He then said that he answered the question of what he made, was told a $20k bump was to much, and was offered a lower (X,000) bump instead because they assumed that's all they needed to do.
- poulsbohemian 5y ago
  No, I didn’t miss it and it doesn’t change my point - asking for a $20k raise is peanuts.
  - HWR_14 5y ago
    It doesn't change your point, but the way you cut quote was misleading.
  - dymk 5y ago
    No, it's not, because companies hire more than 1 person.
sangnoir 5y ago
Individual departments (cost centers) often have salary budgets - this motivates some managers to be penny-pinchers - save $10k here, $20k there, in no time you have enough budget for another warm body!