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Your comment makes it out like everyone with Covid had pnuemonia and shortness of breath for weeks, when really it was a small minority.

dougmwne 5y ago
According to the CDC, 30% to 40% of symptomatic people get shortness of breath, which is a significant share. That is a signal that the infection has reached the lower respiratory system. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/non-us-settings/guidance-identify-hcw-patients.html#anchor_1595973012457 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/non-us-setting...
- artificialLimbs 5y ago
  Had I reported to the CDC (I didn't), I would have reported that I woke up in the middle of the night unable to take a deep breath, went nearly immediately back to sleep, and was free of all symptoms the next day. This would have counted toward the total (had I reported), and such counting needs a wider perspective before such things as say, creating lockdown policies based on these figures.
rlpb 5y ago
According to https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59895598 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59895598, over 500,000 people in the UK are still suffering health issues a year after catching Covid, and nearly 900,000 are still suffering after 12 weeks. The UK population is around 70 million, so that's around 1% of the entire population. If you take into the fact that many people in the UK have managed to not catch it at all yet, or exclude children who suffer far less (if at all), then the percentage would be higher. I don't think 1% is "a small minority".
- kcplate 5y ago
  The problem with a statistic like that is that it is pretty much devoid of almost all data that would make it truly meaningful and valuable. That stat tells us nothing of their health pre-Covid, and I’d bet a very large portion of that number were already dealing with health issues (which we already know significantly increases severe Covid). The meaningful number is how many formerly healthy people are battling Covid caused health issues a year later. My guess is that it is a pretty small number, likely small enough that it would be considered even by you to be a “small minority”.
  - rlpb 5y ago
    Previous health condition status is part of the dataset, so you don't need to guess. If you want to take that into account, then use the data to make your point.
    - kcplate 5y ago
      Thanks for the tip! I’ll let the dataset speak for itself: “7. Health/disability status is self-reported by study participants rather than clinically diagnosed. From February 2021 study participants were asked to exclude any symptoms related to COVID-19 when reporting their health/disability status. However, in practice it may be difficult for some participants to separate long COVID symptoms from unrelated exacerbation of pre-existing conditions, so these results should be treated with caution. “

dougmwne 5y ago

According to the CDC, 30% to 40% of symptomatic people get shortness of breath, which is a significant share. That is a signal that the infection has reached the lower respiratory system. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/non-us-settings/guidance-identify-hcw-patients.html#anchor_1595973012457 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/non-us-setting...

artificialLimbs 5y ago
Had I reported to the CDC (I didn't), I would have reported that I woke up in the middle of the night unable to take a deep breath, went nearly immediately back to sleep, and was free of all symptoms the next day. This would have counted toward the total (had I reported), and such counting needs a wider perspective before such things as say, creating lockdown policies based on these figures.

rlpb 5y ago

According to https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59895598 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59895598, over 500,000 people in the UK are still suffering health issues a year after catching Covid, and nearly 900,000 are still suffering after 12 weeks. The UK population is around 70 million, so that's around 1% of the entire population. If you take into the fact that many people in the UK have managed to not catch it at all yet, or exclude children who suffer far less (if at all), then the percentage would be higher. I don't think 1% is "a small minority".

kcplate 5y ago
The problem with a statistic like that is that it is pretty much devoid of almost all data that would make it truly meaningful and valuable. That stat tells us nothing of their health pre-Covid, and I’d bet a very large portion of that number were already dealing with health issues (which we already know significantly increases severe Covid). The meaningful number is how many formerly healthy people are battling Covid caused health issues a year later. My guess is that it is a pretty small number, likely small enough that it would be considered even by you to be a “small minority”.
- rlpb 5y ago
  Previous health condition status is part of the dataset, so you don't need to guess. If you want to take that into account, then use the data to make your point.
  - kcplate 5y ago
    Thanks for the tip! I’ll let the dataset speak for itself: “7. Health/disability status is self-reported by study participants rather than clinically diagnosed. From February 2021 study participants were asked to exclude any symptoms related to COVID-19 when reporting their health/disability status. However, in practice it may be difficult for some participants to separate long COVID symptoms from unrelated exacerbation of pre-existing conditions, so these results should be treated with caution. “