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A person who refers to themselves in the third-person is called, in English, an illeist. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/illeist https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/

A person who refers to themselves in the third-person is called, in English, an illeist. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/illeist https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/illeist Elmo, Julius Caesar, and Salvador Dali have been identified as illeists. https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/27322/11-famous-illeists https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/27322/11-famous-illeists

mattmaroon 5y ago
All 3 of them earned it. Especially Elmo.
User23 5y ago
There is at least one spot in the Gallic Wars where Caesar refers to himself with the first person pronoun. It really caught my attention.
- chrisabrams 5y ago
  Out of curiosity, is the first person pronoun used in the original translation?
  - User23 5y ago
    I never read the Latin, but that's a good question. Explicitly using pronouns at all is unusual in Latin, so if he did it was almost certainly for effect.
rmnclmnt 5y ago
In France, the most famous illeist is the actor Alain Delon (still alive): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Delon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Delon It has become a traditional joke in itself for a few generations!
kazinator 5y ago
> A person who refers to themselves in the third-person is called, in English, an illeist. In Japanese, he or she is called バッチリ日本人. (^_^) Dali, BTW? So the literal translation of the original quote would have read something like, "Dali doesn't do drugs; Dali is drugs?"
- crvdgc 5y ago
  > In Japanese, he or she is called バッチリ日本人. (^_^) I'm only a beginner in Japanese so I might be wrong, but I don't think that's correct. (Or am I missing a joke?) バッチリ means "perfect" or "fully prepared" and it's an adverb; 日本人 means "a Japanese person". I can't find anywhere stating this phrase means an illeist. One way to say that is just 一人称を名前で呼ぶ人, which means "a person who uses their name as their first person pronoun."
  - kazinator 5y ago
    バッチリ日本人 means "100% Japanese person", "typical Japanese", "nothing but Japanese", "totally Japanese", ... Search for it, in quotes. The joke is that everyone Japanese refers to themselves using grammar that is identical referring to a third party, sometimes even by using their actual name. (Though it's not a grammatical third person, since there is no such thing, and semantically it is understood as a self-reference.0
Benjamin_Dobell 5y ago
Whilst I don't typically talk about myself in the third person. I do occasionally refer to my past and future self in the third person. Basically, Future Ben is a top bloke. When I'm too busy, I just leave the housework for him. On the other hand, Past Ben is an enormous jerk. He's always leaving me shit to do.

mattmaroon 5y ago

All 3 of them earned it. Especially Elmo.

User23 5y ago

There is at least one spot in the Gallic Wars where Caesar refers to himself with the first person pronoun. It really caught my attention.

chrisabrams 5y ago
Out of curiosity, is the first person pronoun used in the original translation?
- User23 5y ago
  I never read the Latin, but that's a good question. Explicitly using pronouns at all is unusual in Latin, so if he did it was almost certainly for effect.

rmnclmnt 5y ago

In France, the most famous illeist is the actor Alain Delon (still alive): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Delon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Delon It has become a traditional joke in itself for a few generations!

kazinator 5y ago

> A person who refers to themselves in the third-person is called, in English, an illeist. In Japanese, he or she is called バッチリ日本人. (^_^) Dali, BTW? So the literal translation of the original quote would have read something like, "Dali doesn't do drugs; Dali is drugs?"

crvdgc 5y ago
> In Japanese, he or she is called バッチリ日本人. (^_^) I'm only a beginner in Japanese so I might be wrong, but I don't think that's correct. (Or am I missing a joke?) バッチリ means "perfect" or "fully prepared" and it's an adverb; 日本人 means "a Japanese person". I can't find anywhere stating this phrase means an illeist. One way to say that is just 一人称を名前で呼ぶ人, which means "a person who uses their name as their first person pronoun."
- kazinator 5y ago
  バッチリ日本人 means "100% Japanese person", "typical Japanese", "nothing but Japanese", "totally Japanese", ... Search for it, in quotes. The joke is that everyone Japanese refers to themselves using grammar that is identical referring to a third party, sometimes even by using their actual name. (Though it's not a grammatical third person, since there is no such thing, and semantically it is understood as a self-reference.0

Benjamin_Dobell 5y ago

Whilst I don't typically talk about myself in the third person. I do occasionally refer to my past and future self in the third person. Basically, Future Ben is a top bloke. When I'm too busy, I just leave the housework for him. On the other hand, Past Ben is an enormous jerk. He's always leaving me shit to do.