> don't think the word productive ever reached my brain when I was learning websphere. So what else was more productive? you said PHP is not the answer and "we

> don't think the word productive ever reached my brain when I was learning websphere. So what else was more productive? you said PHP is not the answer and "websphere" is not Java the language or Java the ecosystem (think of the many Java libraries out there and at the good enough Java standard library compared to others)