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Adobe's new HTML5/CSS3 demo site

25 points by antimatter15 15y ago

catalinist 15y ago
adobe reinvented minecraft? :)
__rkaup__ 15y ago
Is this really happening? Are they really giving up on Flash and supporting open standards?
- citricsquid 15y ago
  why can't they do both?
- tychobrahe 15y ago
  Looks like it. Seems like it's a war where everybody wins. EDIT: But yeah, I don't think they're giving up completely on Flash, considering we'll still need it for some things until pure HTML5 doesn't cover all corners.
- geuis 15y ago
  Adobe, at its roots, has always been a company that builds toolsets that allow people to create content. What they haven't built, they've bought, e.g. Macromedia. Internally Flash has been their flagship media platform product. Consider that one of the reasons Flash gained such massive popularity and install base was that for the longest time, the Flash runtime in browsers was really the only way to do advanced graphics and interactions on the web. Fast forward to the last couple of years and we've seen the advantages of Flash being eroded by advances and standardizations of HTML5 technologies. This has been boosted by the marginalization of Internet Explorer by Firefox, Chrome, and Safari. Only since IE9 has Microsoft made a serious attempt to play catchup. Flash was almost always needed to get earlier versions of IE to do anything approaching advanced. I would propose that what we're seeing now is simply Adobe adapting to the marketplace. While they will continue to try and push Flash, it seems that at least some groups inside of Adobe feel the wind shifting and are working on the next generation of content creation toolsets for modern CSS3, javascript, and HTML5. Whether people will actually use their authoring tools will depend on how good they are and how easy to use. Notice I didn't mention price. People will pay big money for superior tools. If their new tools aren't doing the job developers need, they won't buy. So no, I don't believe Adobe is giving up on Flash. As for open standards, I think its more a matter of them following where the market is heading rather than taking a stance.
justinph 15y ago
Decent try, but still, using the hashbang? Using the history API would seem appropriate if you're demoing HTML5.
- dmix 15y ago
  This demo supports IE9 and Firefox 2 which don't have support for the html5 history API.
chc 15y ago
Please don't editorialize titles like this. Even Adobe themselves didn't call this "awesome," but if they had, it would have been preferable to remove that kind of fluff.
- antimatter15 15y ago
  Ok, I changed it.
- krambs 15y ago
  I would call this objectively awesome. :)
patrickaljord 15y ago
This was posted a month ago already.
inconditus 15y ago
Slightly off topic, but does anyone know what isometric js engine they're using?
burnblue 15y ago
Seems odd to use 1px png background images for the nav instead of rgba colors. They're already using modernizr-style classes on the html element, so browser compatibility isn't the (only) reason.

25 points by antimatter15 15y ago

catalinist 15y ago

adobe reinvented minecraft? :)

__rkaup__ 15y ago

Is this really happening? Are they really giving up on Flash and supporting open standards?

citricsquid 15y ago
why can't they do both?
tychobrahe 15y ago
Looks like it. Seems like it's a war where everybody wins. EDIT: But yeah, I don't think they're giving up completely on Flash, considering we'll still need it for some things until pure HTML5 doesn't cover all corners.
geuis 15y ago
Adobe, at its roots, has always been a company that builds toolsets that allow people to create content. What they haven't built, they've bought, e.g. Macromedia. Internally Flash has been their flagship media platform product. Consider that one of the reasons Flash gained such massive popularity and install base was that for the longest time, the Flash runtime in browsers was really the only way to do advanced graphics and interactions on the web. Fast forward to the last couple of years and we've seen the advantages of Flash being eroded by advances and standardizations of HTML5 technologies. This has been boosted by the marginalization of Internet Explorer by Firefox, Chrome, and Safari. Only since IE9 has Microsoft made a serious attempt to play catchup. Flash was almost always needed to get earlier versions of IE to do anything approaching advanced. I would propose that what we're seeing now is simply Adobe adapting to the marketplace. While they will continue to try and push Flash, it seems that at least some groups inside of Adobe feel the wind shifting and are working on the next generation of content creation toolsets for modern CSS3, javascript, and HTML5. Whether people will actually use their authoring tools will depend on how good they are and how easy to use. Notice I didn't mention price. People will pay big money for superior tools. If their new tools aren't doing the job developers need, they won't buy. So no, I don't believe Adobe is giving up on Flash. As for open standards, I think its more a matter of them following where the market is heading rather than taking a stance.

justinph 15y ago

Decent try, but still, using the hashbang? Using the history API would seem appropriate if you're demoing HTML5.

dmix 15y ago
This demo supports IE9 and Firefox 2 which don't have support for the html5 history API.

chc 15y ago

Please don't editorialize titles like this. Even Adobe themselves didn't call this "awesome," but if they had, it would have been preferable to remove that kind of fluff.

antimatter15 15y ago
Ok, I changed it.
krambs 15y ago
I would call this objectively awesome. :)

patrickaljord 15y ago

This was posted a month ago already.

inconditus 15y ago

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know what isometric js engine they're using?

burnblue 15y ago

Seems odd to use 1px png background images for the nav instead of rgba colors. They're already using modernizr-style classes on the html element, so browser compatibility isn't the (only) reason.