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I went to school with a young kazak person I don't want to reveal to much about them, but let me just say this. Their parents had direct contact to the state an

I went to school with a young kazak person I don't want to reveal to much about them, but let me just say this. Their parents had direct contact to the state and they were unaccountably rich went to an insanely expensive private school and owned various apartments all across Europe. The west DOES benefit from the corruption related to those states.

fivea 5y ago
> I went to school with a young kazak person (...) Their parents had direct contact to the state and they were unaccountably rich went to an insanely expensive private school and owned various apartments all across Europe. I don't understand what point you tried to make. Do you believe someone needs deep state contacts and government approval to purchase private property in a European country?
- sausageman 5y ago
  No I'm saying our economies do benefit from people throwing money around. They buy citizenship they buy massive amounts of real estate they spend obscene amounts of money on nightlife, they buy luxury cars it's not just the Russia who benefits....
mlindner 5y ago
A couple of rich oligarchs playing around with their money in the west doesn't benefit the western economy much. The money they spend is nothing compared to the economies of those western countries. The ones who benefit from the corruption are the ones who have access to the tax stream.
- janeroe 5y ago
  > A couple of rich oligarchs playing around with their money in the west doesn't benefit the western economy much. They don't have to, benefiting just the right people is enough. Schröder & friends say hi.
- anticodon 5y ago
  Mate, research who controls Kazakh natural resources: it's western corporations. It allows them to extract resources and money from Kazakhstan without paying much back. And it's a lot of money and valuable natural resources like copper and uranium. Same was happening in Russia in 90s: western corporation took control of all Russia's natural resources using phony agreements and corrupt businessmen (like Mikhail Khodorkovsky). E.g. in 90s people in Russia were dying of hunger, but oil was sold to the West by the price of water. When Putin came to power, first thing he had done is returning control over natural resources. That's exactly the moment when all the West started vilifying him so badly.

fivea 5y ago

> I went to school with a young kazak person (...) Their parents had direct contact to the state and they were unaccountably rich went to an insanely expensive private school and owned various apartments all across Europe. I don't understand what point you tried to make. Do you believe someone needs deep state contacts and government approval to purchase private property in a European country?

sausageman 5y ago
No I'm saying our economies do benefit from people throwing money around. They buy citizenship they buy massive amounts of real estate they spend obscene amounts of money on nightlife, they buy luxury cars it's not just the Russia who benefits....

mlindner 5y ago

A couple of rich oligarchs playing around with their money in the west doesn't benefit the western economy much. The money they spend is nothing compared to the economies of those western countries. The ones who benefit from the corruption are the ones who have access to the tax stream.

janeroe 5y ago
> A couple of rich oligarchs playing around with their money in the west doesn't benefit the western economy much. They don't have to, benefiting just the right people is enough. Schröder & friends say hi.
anticodon 5y ago
Mate, research who controls Kazakh natural resources: it's western corporations. It allows them to extract resources and money from Kazakhstan without paying much back. And it's a lot of money and valuable natural resources like copper and uranium. Same was happening in Russia in 90s: western corporation took control of all Russia's natural resources using phony agreements and corrupt businessmen (like Mikhail Khodorkovsky). E.g. in 90s people in Russia were dying of hunger, but oil was sold to the West by the price of water. When Putin came to power, first thing he had done is returning control over natural resources. That's exactly the moment when all the West started vilifying him so badly.