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Interesting comment, just so I understand a little better -- do you have a dash cam and have you used it to get footage of any of the many road rage incidents y

Interesting comment, just so I understand a little better -- do you have a dash cam and have you used it to get footage of any of the many road rage incidents you find yourself in to give to the police? If so, did the police achieve any result, and if not do you expect the police and courts would be inclined to get the morons of the road for you if you were able to furnish them with such evidence?

rich_sasha 5y ago
I don't have a dash cam, as for a variety of reasons it's impractical. For example, to capture someone tailgating me, I'd need a read- and forward-facing cam, remember to switch it on every time, and ideally also remove from the car each and every time, due to theft considerations. I know police reception of such evidence varies a lot by locale. I'd hope a black box would effectively serve a few purposes: - Aggressive drivers would know that, should they cause any accident, their whole (recent?) driving history will also be scrutinised, deterring them from such behaviour in the first place. - Should they cause a serious accident, their fault would be more obvious; road accidents often don't have great evidence for fault (few quality eye-witnesses etc.), either inspiring caution, or otherwise eliminating them from driving. - Finally, as a standardised device, it would be far more effective at providing evidence than ad hoc cameras.
- throwawaylinux 5y ago
  Okay. I don't think this type of black box surveillance will be used for what you're hoping for. Do you really expect them to get a warrant and pull the private data for everyone who complains about every fender bender and road rage incident and does not result in major crash or injury? I doubt it. And I'm not sure that it would provide better evidence than cameras for this type of incident. You could get yourself a dash cam (which are not the massive headache you think they are) and reflect on your own driving too (not saying you're at fault but if you're attentive and courteous and de-escalate incidents, it can really avoid most incidents). That will get you much better results.
  - rich_sasha 5y ago
    I suspect knowing that, should you cause even a minor infraction, your whole driving history will be assessed, will be a major deterrent. It’s not like companies go with a fine comb through employee activity logs, but just knowing every http request and email is logged is enough to put most people off bad behaviour. Not all, but most.

rich_sasha 5y ago

I don't have a dash cam, as for a variety of reasons it's impractical. For example, to capture someone tailgating me, I'd need a read- and forward-facing cam, remember to switch it on every time, and ideally also remove from the car each and every time, due to theft considerations. I know police reception of such evidence varies a lot by locale. I'd hope a black box would effectively serve a few purposes: - Aggressive drivers would know that, should they cause any accident, their whole (recent?) driving history will also be scrutinised, deterring them from such behaviour in the first place. - Should they cause a serious accident, their fault would be more obvious; road accidents often don't have great evidence for fault (few quality eye-witnesses etc.), either inspiring caution, or otherwise eliminating them from driving. - Finally, as a standardised device, it would be far more effective at providing evidence than ad hoc cameras.

throwawaylinux 5y ago
Okay. I don't think this type of black box surveillance will be used for what you're hoping for. Do you really expect them to get a warrant and pull the private data for everyone who complains about every fender bender and road rage incident and does not result in major crash or injury? I doubt it. And I'm not sure that it would provide better evidence than cameras for this type of incident. You could get yourself a dash cam (which are not the massive headache you think they are) and reflect on your own driving too (not saying you're at fault but if you're attentive and courteous and de-escalate incidents, it can really avoid most incidents). That will get you much better results.
- rich_sasha 5y ago
  I suspect knowing that, should you cause even a minor infraction, your whole driving history will be assessed, will be a major deterrent. It’s not like companies go with a fine comb through employee activity logs, but just knowing every http request and email is logged is enough to put most people off bad behaviour. Not all, but most.