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The intent of the laws is to force businesses to make better decisions about how they monetise and how they manage user data. Most businesses have reacted by re

The intent of the laws is to force businesses to make better decisions about how they monetise and how they manage user data. Most businesses have reacted by refusing to make these decisions in favour of users, instead choosing to make the experience of using their sites unpleasant to generate a backlash against the law. Like you're doing. You could say that the law is failing because it opened the loopholes allowing businesses to choose to behave badly, externalising the decision making to users. If that's your opinion, can you be a bit more specific, so we can dig into that issue and explore solutions and objections?

baby 5y ago
The law is failing because it created a worst situation. This has been going on for what seems like a decade. Nobody won from this. This is a bad law QED.
- dvdkon 5y ago
  I don't see how the situation is altogether worse. Now everyone is aware about the extent of tracking and can opt out, even if most sites don't make it as easy as it should be. Is clicking "yes"/"no" such a big hassle that you'd rather have blanket tracking everywhere?
  - baby 5y ago
    Do you live in Europe?
    - dvdkon 5y ago
      Yes, and I think the GDPR has been a net benefit for me and society, even if enforcement has been really slow.
- cryptonym 5y ago
  That law never forced companies to worsen user-experience, it forced them to disclose what they do with your data and limit what they can do without consent. This post is about companies building user-hostile and illegal UX. Are you blaming the law for this?
  - baby 5y ago
    It doesn’t matter what the intent of the law was, effectively it created a worse experience for everyone.
    - cryptonym 5y ago
      The law didn't create worse experience, companies did by not following the law. They just went with some dark pattern to keep data and try to work around the law. Guess what? This is illegal and this is exactly what this post is about. It's a bit weird to complain about the law instead of companies trying to extort your personal data, process and resell them, illegally and without your consent...

baby 5y ago

The law is failing because it created a worst situation. This has been going on for what seems like a decade. Nobody won from this. This is a bad law QED.

dvdkon 5y ago
I don't see how the situation is altogether worse. Now everyone is aware about the extent of tracking and can opt out, even if most sites don't make it as easy as it should be. Is clicking "yes"/"no" such a big hassle that you'd rather have blanket tracking everywhere?
- baby 5y ago
  Do you live in Europe?
  - dvdkon 5y ago
    Yes, and I think the GDPR has been a net benefit for me and society, even if enforcement has been really slow.
cryptonym 5y ago
That law never forced companies to worsen user-experience, it forced them to disclose what they do with your data and limit what they can do without consent. This post is about companies building user-hostile and illegal UX. Are you blaming the law for this?
- baby 5y ago
  It doesn’t matter what the intent of the law was, effectively it created a worse experience for everyone.
  - cryptonym 5y ago
    The law didn't create worse experience, companies did by not following the law. They just went with some dark pattern to keep data and try to work around the law. Guess what? This is illegal and this is exactly what this post is about. It's a bit weird to complain about the law instead of companies trying to extort your personal data, process and resell them, illegally and without your consent...