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I agree on the logic, though G and FB are hardly the only culprits. Ballpark guess is >50% of sites I visit with a cookie popup behave in a similar way. Would

I agree on the logic, though G and FB are hardly the only culprits. Ballpark guess is >50% of sites I visit with a cookie popup behave in a similar way. Would be much easier if there were a normalised DOM structure/wrapper for these cookie popups so an extension can be made to choose the preferred choice, with possible exceptions. Between the cookie popups and a "sign up to our newsletter" as soon as your pointer leaves the viewport- they're a huge time suck. I've seen some extensions advertised but unsure whether they're able to cater for all the variations of layout.

ErikCorry 5y ago
So 50% of sites do this, but the only ones getting fines are foreign entities that politicians like to hate on for votes? That indicates to me that this is about revenue and politics, and not about the law. Call me cynical.
- Macha 5y ago
  Alternatively, it's about the cost/benefit of starting with the long tail vs starting with the largest offenders?
- thrwyoilarticle 5y ago
  They're also the two who run the biggest ad networks. It's their cookies that other illegal dialogs are installing & it's them that benefits the most from a culture of ignoring the law. I'd be more than happy for fines to be extended to other companies but I hope these fines will be a wakeup call for them. If they don't want the fines, they could do what you and I do every day and follow the law.
  - ErikCorry 5y ago
    This is about the dialogs on facebook.com, google.fr and youtube.com. Not about dialogs on other sites that may or may not use ad networks.
    - thrwyoilarticle 5y ago
      I know
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
This is true, but the big ones have the most money to actually pay the fines, and they have an exemplary role. The smaller websites will see this and think "Oh shit, our big examples did not get away with it, we need to fix our shit" Keep in mind that a lot of websites and technology in general is basically copying from others. Google and Facebook are leaders in that area, and a lot of companies try to emulate them and follow their lead. Cargo cult? A bit.
kuschku 5y ago
The Danish browser extension "Consent-O-Matic" already handles most tracking dialogs, including Trust Arc. But automating thus wasn't intended by the GDPR. It specifically requires a reject all button and specifically bans an accept all button. Rejection has to always be easiest and the default, accepting has to be hard and slow.

ErikCorry 5y ago

So 50% of sites do this, but the only ones getting fines are foreign entities that politicians like to hate on for votes? That indicates to me that this is about revenue and politics, and not about the law. Call me cynical.

Macha 5y ago
Alternatively, it's about the cost/benefit of starting with the long tail vs starting with the largest offenders?
thrwyoilarticle 5y ago
They're also the two who run the biggest ad networks. It's their cookies that other illegal dialogs are installing & it's them that benefits the most from a culture of ignoring the law. I'd be more than happy for fines to be extended to other companies but I hope these fines will be a wakeup call for them. If they don't want the fines, they could do what you and I do every day and follow the law.
- ErikCorry 5y ago
  This is about the dialogs on facebook.com, google.fr and youtube.com. Not about dialogs on other sites that may or may not use ad networks.
  - thrwyoilarticle 5y ago
    I know

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

This is true, but the big ones have the most money to actually pay the fines, and they have an exemplary role. The smaller websites will see this and think "Oh shit, our big examples did not get away with it, we need to fix our shit" Keep in mind that a lot of websites and technology in general is basically copying from others. Google and Facebook are leaders in that area, and a lot of companies try to emulate them and follow their lead. Cargo cult? A bit.

kuschku 5y ago

The Danish browser extension "Consent-O-Matic" already handles most tracking dialogs, including Trust Arc. But automating thus wasn't intended by the GDPR. It specifically requires a reject all button and specifically bans an accept all button. Rejection has to always be easiest and the default, accepting has to be hard and slow.