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French administrative regulatory fining American tech conglomerates is laughable. Do they even have to pay this?

po1nter 5y ago
Yes, if they want to keep doing business in France.
d8c6c050cb0a4d7 5y ago
The fines were issued to Facebook Ireland and Google Ireland, which are within the jurisdiction of the EU. Typically if a company wishes to do business with EU residents they have to comply with the EU regulations. Many larger companies choose to incorporate somewhere in the EU to make this easier or in some cases they will even incorporate in each country that they do business in.
WHA8m 5y ago
Can you elaborate why this is laughable to you? This might be a shocker, but even American companies have to obey the local law of the country they operate in. Big tech runs offices, has infrastructure and profits of a huge market in those countries. All of this is leverage a country can use to enforce their law.
- unobatbayar 5y ago
  Perhaps laughable wasn't the proper word. It's just that there is nothing anyone can do against Google or Facebook at this point.
  - WHA8m 5y ago
    I beg to differ, but it's difficult for sure. I'm very thankful for people who don't surrender but continue to call out what is wrong.
  - rado 5y ago
    These actions will eventually snowball.
  - avianlyric 5y ago
    France can just order local banks, payment networks and bailiffs to seize any money or physical assets that Facebook or Google have in France. Or, if they wanted to go all out, could issue EU wide arrest warrants for top Google and Facebook executives, and start seizing their assets. I’m sure top exec at both companies have a bunch of holiday homes on the south coast of France they like to visit.
PeterisP 5y ago
Google has huge annual revenue from EU advertisers and significant assets within EU; the main EU subsidiary "Google Ireland" has something like 50 billion euros annual turnover - of course they have to pay this unless they want to withdraw completely.
thrwyoilarticle 5y ago
Google and Facebook are publicly traded companies. Indirectly, I own shares in both. I'm not American, nor are many of their workers, nor are many of their officies, nor is Sundar Pichai. Crucially, these 'customers' are French and, like you and I, if you want to sell things (belonging) to French people in France, you have to follow French laws. Assigning nationalities to companies is bizarre.

Yes, if they want to keep doing business in France.

The fines were issued to Facebook Ireland and Google Ireland, which are within the jurisdiction of the EU. Typically if a company wishes to do business with EU residents they have to comply with the EU regulations. Many larger companies choose to incorporate somewhere in the EU to make this easier or in some cases they will even incorporate in each country that they do business in.

WHA8m 5y ago

Can you elaborate why this is laughable to you? This might be a shocker, but even American companies have to obey the local law of the country they operate in. Big tech runs offices, has infrastructure and profits of a huge market in those countries. All of this is leverage a country can use to enforce their law.

unobatbayar 5y ago
Perhaps laughable wasn't the proper word. It's just that there is nothing anyone can do against Google or Facebook at this point.
- WHA8m 5y ago
  I beg to differ, but it's difficult for sure. I'm very thankful for people who don't surrender but continue to call out what is wrong.
- rado 5y ago
  These actions will eventually snowball.
- avianlyric 5y ago
  France can just order local banks, payment networks and bailiffs to seize any money or physical assets that Facebook or Google have in France. Or, if they wanted to go all out, could issue EU wide arrest warrants for top Google and Facebook executives, and start seizing their assets. I’m sure top exec at both companies have a bunch of holiday homes on the south coast of France they like to visit.

PeterisP 5y ago

Google has huge annual revenue from EU advertisers and significant assets within EU; the main EU subsidiary "Google Ireland" has something like 50 billion euros annual turnover - of course they have to pay this unless they want to withdraw completely.

thrwyoilarticle 5y ago

Google and Facebook are publicly traded companies. Indirectly, I own shares in both. I'm not American, nor are many of their workers, nor are many of their officies, nor is Sundar Pichai. Crucially, these 'customers' are French and, like you and I, if you want to sell things (belonging) to French people in France, you have to follow French laws. Assigning nationalities to companies is bizarre.