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Yes they do exist becuase of the GDPR, but what's your point? So the privacy law that is regulating tracking and data transfer - especially when ambiguous to th

Yes they do exist becuase of the GDPR, but what's your point? So the privacy law that is regulating tracking and data transfer - especially when ambiguous to the user - is to blame and not the companies performing these shady practices? The companies that then make a cookie banner cat-and-mouse game with dark patterns to trick users into "consenting" anyways, although it was clear from the beginning that many of these practices are illegal, a fact that jurisdictional takes some time to establish. But sure, the law which puts users' privacy at the center is to blame and not these companies.

twblalock 5y ago
Yes, the law is to blame. The companies never would have done any of this except for the law. The GDPR is the reason the web is festooned with ridiculous cookie consent forms of all kinds, both the good ones and the bad ones. Keep in mind too that I am not a citizen of an EU country. I have to put up with these dialogs and I get nothing in return. The upside for EU citizens is that they have a law to protect them. All I get is the downside.
- kuschku 5y ago
  So you suggest that without the law they wouldn't track you? Or that without the law they wouldn't even give you a notification that they do illegally track you?
YetAnotherNick 5y ago
> So the privacy law that is regulating tracking and data transfer - especially when ambiguous to the user - is to blame and not the companies performing these shady practices? Yes, the purpose of the law is to end the shady practice which doesn't seem to be happening and no one is caring about the outcome. Popup seems to be just like a second ToS which existed in web for years. If the law doesn't track its real world effect or doesn't do an analysis on the benefit to annoyance ratio, yes it's the law which is to be blamed.
- sime2009 5y ago
  The law is just fine. It is the lack of enforcement which has been the problem. I hope that this move from the French is the beginning of the end of these shady pop ups.
gerash 5y ago
Yes, the law is to be blamed. I don't care about intentions, I see the outcome and as long as the outcome is lose lose (as is the case with the cookie banners) then the law needs to be changed / updated / repealed / amended.

twblalock 5y ago

Yes, the law is to blame. The companies never would have done any of this except for the law. The GDPR is the reason the web is festooned with ridiculous cookie consent forms of all kinds, both the good ones and the bad ones. Keep in mind too that I am not a citizen of an EU country. I have to put up with these dialogs and I get nothing in return. The upside for EU citizens is that they have a law to protect them. All I get is the downside.

kuschku 5y ago
So you suggest that without the law they wouldn't track you? Or that without the law they wouldn't even give you a notification that they do illegally track you?

YetAnotherNick 5y ago

> So the privacy law that is regulating tracking and data transfer - especially when ambiguous to the user - is to blame and not the companies performing these shady practices? Yes, the purpose of the law is to end the shady practice which doesn't seem to be happening and no one is caring about the outcome. Popup seems to be just like a second ToS which existed in web for years. If the law doesn't track its real world effect or doesn't do an analysis on the benefit to annoyance ratio, yes it's the law which is to be blamed.

sime2009 5y ago
The law is just fine. It is the lack of enforcement which has been the problem. I hope that this move from the French is the beginning of the end of these shady pop ups.

gerash 5y ago

Yes, the law is to be blamed. I don't care about intentions, I see the outcome and as long as the outcome is lose lose (as is the case with the cookie banners) then the law needs to be changed / updated / repealed / amended.