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During the early 2000s, the dot-com bubble coincided with a telco bubble, with everybody working themselves into a lather over the promise of WAP, basically dia
by dustintrex 5y ago
During the early 2000s, the dot-com bubble coincided with a telco bubble, with everybody working themselves into a lather over the promise of WAP, basically dial-up modems for mobile phones: slow, underpowered, charged per minute and thus hugely expensive. Working at a telco operator, I had access to the logs of the WAP gateways serving up the stuff, and far and away the top use was porn, with waperotica.com being particularly dominant.
The catch: this was way before smartphones. The Nokia 3310, a typical device at the time, had a 84x84 black and white (really more black and olive) display, considerably worse than the CP/M 256×192 panned in the article -- and still people watched porn on it.
- piaste 5y ago> with everybody working themselves into a lather over the promise of WAP If this was an intentional pun over the recently-acquired other meaning of "WAP", my compliments, it was perfectly executed.
- dredmorbius 5y agoIf you're referring to sexual reference`, those preceed the wireless protocol by some centuries. https://www.etymonline.com/word/wap https://www.etymonline.com/word/wap
- forgotmyoldacc 5y agoWhy are people using euphemisms here? The sexual reference: WAP stands for "wet ass pussy", popularized by Cardi B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsm4poTWjMs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsm4poTWjMs. The music video has over 400M views.
- hulitu 5y agoMaybe in some countries. I only knew about the phone use for WAP.
- BuildTheRobots 5y agoXKCD #37 seems relevant... though I'm not willing to put money on where the hyphen is intended in that acronym. https://xkcd.com/37/ https://xkcd.com/37/
- dredmorbius 5y agoI'd managed to forget that usage, though I've commented on it previously (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24396681#24406061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24396681#24406061). Apparently I've now lost that game. The term (as a word, not an acronym) is also used to refer to self-indulgence, generally among males. That and earlier references suggesting various modes of beat being laid down are what I was referencing with my etymology link above.
- tomc1985 5y agoAccording to GP's link, it looks like the word has been slang for fucking for some time (probably as a verb?) Wonder if that word is where 'fap' comes from (meaning 'to masturbate')
- plorkyeran 5y ago"Fap" began as onomatopoeia popularized by the Sexy Losers webcomic, first appearing in https://www.sexylosers.com/comic/003/ https://www.sexylosers.com/comic/003/ (NSFW in case that wasn't obvious).
- tomc1985 5y agoHoly crap, I grew up reading that comic and never realized it had such a wide audience If there is one thing that really educated me about kink, it's that comic Cool!
- 1_player 5y agoNever heard of it before.
- piaste 5y agoThere is a more recent one, popularized in 2020 as an acronym.
- dredmorbius 5y agoI'd managed to put that out of my mind. See earlier reply in thread.
- capableweb 5y agoIntentional or not, WAP (Wiresless Application Protocol) was a real protocol that allowed you to surf the web on a cellphone in the late 90s/early 20s, before 3G was a thing. Most websites (or wapsites) were super barebones and relatively fast for me, and you could find interesting stuff like cracked .jars of popular games or of course, porn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Application_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Application_Protocol
- ajsnigrutin 5y agoTo be fair, with the current web bloat, wap sites were faster to open than many todays sites, even on 5G.
- Viker 5y agoI remember using and WAP2IRC gateway to impress my IRC buddies.
- GekkePrutser 5y agoThey had to be barebones. WAP only supported text and tiny black and white (no greyscale) images. I did some WAP sites and it was pretty horrible to work with even back then. The phone I used (Nokia 7110) didn't even support GPRS so you had to make a call at 9600 baud and pay per minute so you didn't want to hang around either. The Japanese had i.mode which was much more powerful. They tried to introduce it in Europe but by then the smartphone was already coming.
- causi 5y agoIt's fascinating that low-res images exploded in popularity, when really the technology would've been better-suited to amateur literotica.
- dredmorbius 5y agoPictures beat words (so to speak). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29734146 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29734146
- Lio 5y agoAs the saying goes, "I would trade every painting of Jesus for one photograph of him". I picture is worth a thoughsand words.
- tialaramex 5y agoThere are sex-themed text adventures (e.g. Drive-In in which you're at a Drive-in movie theatre with a date: https://ifdb.org/viewgame?id=gksf13iptntcx5m6 https://ifdb.org/viewgame?id=gksf13iptntcx5m6 ) but most of the people writing "amateur literotica" are middle-aged women and the pre-VGA era PC has far fewer of those proportionally. In terms of more conventional erotic literature (not branching narrative) that takes off more with widespread access to the Internet because it connects writers and audience. Today authors can gently shade over, from giving away fan-fiction on AO3 to producing cheap Amazon e-Books that make you enough to buy a coffee once in a while, to getting paid professionally to churn out stories for an outfit like Harlequin that can afford actual editors (even if you read two Romances a day like my mother, the fact Jim got taller and grew a beard in the course of a single chapter jumps out, not to mention the fact his older brother's name changed, and so she can tell if she's reading a story that a professional gave the once over before it was published). The Internet also caused readers to explore more, instead of buying a box of a dozen Edwardian-era Romantic fiction novels at a time, knowing that's more of something you like, when it's one click away why not find out whether you're into werewolves, or gay relationships, or the Wild West, or whatever? If you hate it you can click away and be reading yet more stories from the early 20th century British Empire in seconds.
- seba_dos1 5y agoNokia 3310 had 84x48 screen and couldn't connect to WAP; but Nokia 3410 already could (via CSD), and that one had a much better screen - 96x65. You could however send and receive graphical SMS on Nokia 3310 - a whooping 72x28 monochrome image sent over three SMSes :)