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50% of healthcare costs are incurred in the final 5 years of life, and in much of the world private healthcare is accepted and efficient. I'd rather euthanize

50% of healthcare costs are incurred in the final 5 years of life, and in much of the world private healthcare is accepted and efficient. I'd rather euthanize myself at age 80 and pay much lower taxes throughout my adult life than die at age 85 in a gold-plated Government hospital. Sanitation and public transport can be directly charged to end-users based on usage. Education can be funded with land value taxes. Federal Government bureaucracy just exists to support itself. Healthcare agencies have been turned against the population to promote lockdowns and big pharma, and intelligence agencies spy against their own citizens.

notch656a 5y ago
aemreunal 5y ago
> in much of the world private healthcare is accepted and efficient. It is accepted in many parts of the world, unfortunately, but in what part of the world is it "efficient"? Can you give an example? Is "basic medicine costing $500 (see insulin) to the few that can afford it and the rest dying because they can't access it" what you define as efficient? > I'd rather euthanize myself at age 80 and pay much lower taxes throughout my adult life than die at age 85 in a gold-plated Government hospital. I'd rather not. I doubt many people would be okay with that. I like living and being healthy. You can still feel free to do that in either situation. > Sanitation and public transport can be directly charged to end-users based on usage. So the rich should get clean streets and running water while the poor walk on their own shit? Should we charge per poop? As for public transportation, you think it would work if I didn't pay taxes for it and it cost $80 for someone to take it because they can't afford the $20 Uber ride? > Federal Government bureaucracy just exists to support itself. This is objectively not true. Many techies (not just crypto people) tend to forget why societal structures were invented in the first place. No one's saying inefficiencies don't exist but disregarding all of society seems to be specifically tailored to get a rise out of people. I don't know how I can explain to you that we all need to care about each other, otherwise we'll all go extinct.
- 8note 5y ago
  > So the rich should get clean streets and running water while the poor walk on their own shit? That's a pretty accurate depiction of the US. Seattle at least
  - mellavora 5y ago
    For a minute I thought you made a typo and meant "US Senate". but then I remembered some stories I've heard about Seattle and San Francisco.
  - aemreunal 5y ago
    At least San Francisco is more democratic in that sense. We all get to walk on some amount of shit :P
- BeFlatXIII 5y ago
  > I'd rather not. I doubt many people would be okay with that. I like living and being healthy. You can still feel free to do that in either situation. Part of GP’s point is that you’re not healthy & free for those extra five years when the costs truly spike.
jaclaz 5y ago
>I'd rather euthanize myself at age 80 and pay much lower taxes throughout my adult life than die at age 85 in a gold-plated Government hospital. Only it wouldn't probbably work that way, more probably it would be something more like: Dear Citizen, this is the Government. Our actuaries determined that you can only live up to 70 years with the tax you paid, so you are kindly requested to present yourself on the morning of the day before your 70th birthday at 9:00 o'clock at [redacted] so that we can proceed to your termination. We assure you that the procedure will be quick and painless. Thnks in advance for your cooperation.

notch656a 5y ago

aemreunal 5y ago

> in much of the world private healthcare is accepted and efficient. It is accepted in many parts of the world, unfortunately, but in what part of the world is it "efficient"? Can you give an example? Is "basic medicine costing $500 (see insulin) to the few that can afford it and the rest dying because they can't access it" what you define as efficient? > I'd rather euthanize myself at age 80 and pay much lower taxes throughout my adult life than die at age 85 in a gold-plated Government hospital. I'd rather not. I doubt many people would be okay with that. I like living and being healthy. You can still feel free to do that in either situation. > Sanitation and public transport can be directly charged to end-users based on usage. So the rich should get clean streets and running water while the poor walk on their own shit? Should we charge per poop? As for public transportation, you think it would work if I didn't pay taxes for it and it cost $80 for someone to take it because they can't afford the $20 Uber ride? > Federal Government bureaucracy just exists to support itself. This is objectively not true. Many techies (not just crypto people) tend to forget why societal structures were invented in the first place. No one's saying inefficiencies don't exist but disregarding all of society seems to be specifically tailored to get a rise out of people. I don't know how I can explain to you that we all need to care about each other, otherwise we'll all go extinct.

8note 5y ago
> So the rich should get clean streets and running water while the poor walk on their own shit? That's a pretty accurate depiction of the US. Seattle at least
- mellavora 5y ago
  For a minute I thought you made a typo and meant "US Senate". but then I remembered some stories I've heard about Seattle and San Francisco.
- aemreunal 5y ago
  At least San Francisco is more democratic in that sense. We all get to walk on some amount of shit :P
BeFlatXIII 5y ago
> I'd rather not. I doubt many people would be okay with that. I like living and being healthy. You can still feel free to do that in either situation. Part of GP’s point is that you’re not healthy & free for those extra five years when the costs truly spike.

jaclaz 5y ago

>I'd rather euthanize myself at age 80 and pay much lower taxes throughout my adult life than die at age 85 in a gold-plated Government hospital. Only it wouldn't probbably work that way, more probably it would be something more like: Dear Citizen, this is the Government. Our actuaries determined that you can only live up to 70 years with the tax you paid, so you are kindly requested to present yourself on the morning of the day before your 70th birthday at 9:00 o'clock at [redacted] so that we can proceed to your termination. We assure you that the procedure will be quick and painless. Thnks in advance for your cooperation.