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To not put the flight in schedule in first place when they know it has been empty multiple times. More importantly, it does not matter how much humans talk abo

To not put the flight in schedule in first place when they know it has been empty multiple times. More importantly, it does not matter how much humans talk about climate change, we never want to even face a slight inconvenience to solve it.

sokoloff 5y ago
Schedules are set almost a year in advance. Right now, I can book tickets for US Thanksgiving 2022 (late Nov), but not for Christmas quite yet. Once pax have bought tickets, it’s harder to change the schedule without biting the hand that feeds you.
- birksherty 5y ago
  I think situation is different when they had almost empty flights and not a festive season. In that case they can cancel the schedule months ago and provide different arrangement to the 6 people that booked.
sumedh 5y ago
> To not put the flight in schedule in first place when they know it has been empty multiple times. That is a good solution. > we never want to even face a slight inconvenience to solve it That depends, I would argue that changing flight schedules is not just a slight inconvenience, its more than that. Are airlines even a big source of co2 emission when you compare it with other sources, we should be tackling the biggest emission sources not the small ones.
- skohan 5y ago
  > Are airlines even a big source of co2 emission when you compare it with other source I am not an expert but I found this article: https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector According to this it looks like passenger aviation accounts for around 1.5% of CO2 produced. Additionally, according to this article: https://www.carbonindependent.org/22.html https://www.carbonindependent.org/22.html the climate impact of flights should be considered with a factor of 2-3 times their base carbon emissions, due to additional effects specific to air travel, like nitrous oxide and ozone emissions. Even at the base rate of 1.5%, that seems high for a single activity no?
  - sumedh 5y ago
    > Even at the base rate of 1.5%, that seems high for a single activity no? Well 1.5% is not too high if you ask me, it would be worth our time and money to tackle other emission sources which contribute 5% or more, not saying we should ignore airlines but forcing delays and harassment to airline travellers is not right.

sokoloff 5y ago

Schedules are set almost a year in advance. Right now, I can book tickets for US Thanksgiving 2022 (late Nov), but not for Christmas quite yet. Once pax have bought tickets, it’s harder to change the schedule without biting the hand that feeds you.

birksherty 5y ago
I think situation is different when they had almost empty flights and not a festive season. In that case they can cancel the schedule months ago and provide different arrangement to the 6 people that booked.

sumedh 5y ago

> To not put the flight in schedule in first place when they know it has been empty multiple times. That is a good solution. > we never want to even face a slight inconvenience to solve it That depends, I would argue that changing flight schedules is not just a slight inconvenience, its more than that. Are airlines even a big source of co2 emission when you compare it with other sources, we should be tackling the biggest emission sources not the small ones.

skohan 5y ago
> Are airlines even a big source of co2 emission when you compare it with other source I am not an expert but I found this article: https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector According to this it looks like passenger aviation accounts for around 1.5% of CO2 produced. Additionally, according to this article: https://www.carbonindependent.org/22.html https://www.carbonindependent.org/22.html the climate impact of flights should be considered with a factor of 2-3 times their base carbon emissions, due to additional effects specific to air travel, like nitrous oxide and ozone emissions. Even at the base rate of 1.5%, that seems high for a single activity no?
- sumedh 5y ago
  > Even at the base rate of 1.5%, that seems high for a single activity no? Well 1.5% is not too high if you ask me, it would be worth our time and money to tackle other emission sources which contribute 5% or more, not saying we should ignore airlines but forcing delays and harassment to airline travellers is not right.