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I hate to break it to you but it probably has nothing to do with that. We’re talking about a demographic that wants to fit in more than any sycophant humble bra

I hate to break it to you but it probably has nothing to do with that. We’re talking about a demographic that wants to fit in more than any sycophant humble bragger on LinkedIn. The most likely reason is certain crowds in school have iPhones. Maybe the broke ass kids have that shoddy cheap Android. That’s like wearing Payless or knock-off sneakers. No, not me, everyone’s got Jordans mom, and the new iPhone dad. It’s almost like you don’t care about me and want me to be seen as a loser in school. Gosh.

crehn 5y ago
> The most likely reason is certain crowds in school have iPhones. Why do you think that is?
- crate_barre 5y ago
  Lol because I’ve been to high school and have once, in a past life, been a teenager.
  - crehn 5y ago
    I mean, why do you think that certain crowd has gravitated to iPhones and not Androids?
    - Jensson 5y ago
      Stuff like this? https://www.fastcompany.com/90391587/why-we-dont-want-you-and-your-android-green-bubbles-in-our-imessage-chat https://www.fastcompany.com/90391587/why-we-dont-want-you-an... Also when the poor kids has cheap androids then kids will associate those with low status. It isn't like kids ask for items from their parents based on very rational reasons, they want the items that the popular kids in school has and avoid the items the poor kids in school has.
      - crehn 5y ago
        That doesn't answer the question why do you think that group initially acquired critical mass enticing others to change?
        smabie 5y ago
        Because most people agree that iPhones are just simply better than Androids.
        Jensson 5y ago
        You don't need critical mass, as long as one side is oppressive towards the other like this the percentages will shift until it becomes a critical mass. Lets say one group had iphones and the other group had androids. The iphone group starts to talk badly about the android group due to issues like this, and slowly the other groups will switch to using iphones. If iphones were that much better value then adults would be using them at similar rates, but they aren't. Also the other effect is similar. The android ecosystem is affordable so poor people can get it. That creates the same problem as poor neighbourhoods, you don't pay to live in an expensive neighborhood due to the neighborhood itself, but to ensure that poor people can't afford tolive near you. Iphone creates the same effect, you can get an android for super cheap so it is worth a lot of money for kids to create a group where they can ensure that the poor kids can't easily take part of.
        lotsofpulp 5y ago
        >If iphones were that much better value then adults would be using them at similar rates, but they aren't. This assumes adults, including all the old people who grew up without computers and phones or even smartphones, would be using the devices in the same capacities as a teenager, which seems like a very poor assumption.
abletonlive 5y ago
or you know, people just like the experience of using an iPhone better. is it really that hard to believe? I'm tired of people shitting over teenagers as if they can't even think at all.
- crate_barre 5y ago
- smabie 5y ago
  I mean it's probably a combination of two: iPhones are generally considered better (and I concur with this sentiment) which leads to initial adoption and then everyone else has to have one too. I mean he'll I'm an adult supposedly and am as susceptible to trends/fashions/being cool as anyone else.
- marticode 5y ago
  Except that other markets absolutely do not show this level of iPhone market share. So either American teens are very discerning of UIs, or they just try to fit in within a network of existing iPhone users.
  - abletonlive 5y ago
    And how did this existing network of iPhone users come to be if it was just about fitting in? This is obviously flawed logic. Why even talk about other markets unless you can control for all of the other variables? The other markets are completely different, there is no market like the US market just like there is no market like the market seen in China or India...or maybe if you think as you do, you should ask the question why teenagers in the US market are more likely to try to "fit in" than other teenagers in other markets...

crehn 5y ago

> The most likely reason is certain crowds in school have iPhones. Why do you think that is?

crate_barre 5y ago
Lol because I’ve been to high school and have once, in a past life, been a teenager.
- crehn 5y ago
  I mean, why do you think that certain crowd has gravitated to iPhones and not Androids?
  - Jensson 5y ago
    Stuff like this? https://www.fastcompany.com/90391587/why-we-dont-want-you-and-your-android-green-bubbles-in-our-imessage-chat https://www.fastcompany.com/90391587/why-we-dont-want-you-an... Also when the poor kids has cheap androids then kids will associate those with low status. It isn't like kids ask for items from their parents based on very rational reasons, they want the items that the popular kids in school has and avoid the items the poor kids in school has.
    - crehn 5y ago
      That doesn't answer the question why do you think that group initially acquired critical mass enticing others to change?
      - smabie 5y ago
        Because most people agree that iPhones are just simply better than Androids.
      - Jensson 5y ago
        You don't need critical mass, as long as one side is oppressive towards the other like this the percentages will shift until it becomes a critical mass. Lets say one group had iphones and the other group had androids. The iphone group starts to talk badly about the android group due to issues like this, and slowly the other groups will switch to using iphones. If iphones were that much better value then adults would be using them at similar rates, but they aren't. Also the other effect is similar. The android ecosystem is affordable so poor people can get it. That creates the same problem as poor neighbourhoods, you don't pay to live in an expensive neighborhood due to the neighborhood itself, but to ensure that poor people can't afford tolive near you. Iphone creates the same effect, you can get an android for super cheap so it is worth a lot of money for kids to create a group where they can ensure that the poor kids can't easily take part of.
        lotsofpulp 5y ago
        >If iphones were that much better value then adults would be using them at similar rates, but they aren't. This assumes adults, including all the old people who grew up without computers and phones or even smartphones, would be using the devices in the same capacities as a teenager, which seems like a very poor assumption.

abletonlive 5y ago

or you know, people just like the experience of using an iPhone better. is it really that hard to believe? I'm tired of people shitting over teenagers as if they can't even think at all.

crate_barre 5y ago
smabie 5y ago
I mean it's probably a combination of two: iPhones are generally considered better (and I concur with this sentiment) which leads to initial adoption and then everyone else has to have one too. I mean he'll I'm an adult supposedly and am as susceptible to trends/fashions/being cool as anyone else.
marticode 5y ago
Except that other markets absolutely do not show this level of iPhone market share. So either American teens are very discerning of UIs, or they just try to fit in within a network of existing iPhone users.
- abletonlive 5y ago
  And how did this existing network of iPhone users come to be if it was just about fitting in? This is obviously flawed logic. Why even talk about other markets unless you can control for all of the other variables? The other markets are completely different, there is no market like the US market just like there is no market like the market seen in China or India...or maybe if you think as you do, you should ask the question why teenagers in the US market are more likely to try to "fit in" than other teenagers in other markets...