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why do you want to work for Amazon and Google when there are so many great companies that would appreciate you every day (and pay you more)
by mikesabbagh 5y ago
why do you want to work for Amazon and Google when there are so many great companies that would appreciate you every day (and pay you more)
- throw1234651234 5y ago(and pay you more). No.
- jrockway 5y agoWho is paying more than Amazon and Google right now? Investment banks, maybe?
- free652 5y agoQuants: Citadel and Jane Street.
- bimboler38 5y agoGL getting in. The interviews are arguably harder than that of FAANG.
- tfehring 5y agohttps://levels.fyi/2021 https://levels.fyi/2021 Also my impression is that Amazon’s effective comp is significantly below the headline number because they heavily backload RSUs and they burn out or fire so many people in the first couple years.
- oangemangut 5y agousually the signing bonus they offer for years 1 and 2 makes up for the backloaded RSU schedule... at least that's mostly how my offer worked circa 2019
- decafninja 5y agoHaha, investment banks do not pay SWEs well at all (outside of certain rare elite niche roles anyways). You'll be lucky to make half the compensation a FAANG engineer makes at a typical investment bank while always being treated as a second class cost center employee. Amongst the FAANG companies, my understanding for compensation is: Netflix, Facebook > Google > Apple, Amazon ...adding in the MULA companies, believe Uber, Lyft, and Airbnb are towards the upper end of the spectrum while Microsoft is towards the lower. Correct me if I'm wrong.
- darth_avocado 5y agoNo. There are companies where you can have a life, but they are boring. And there are companies that pay you more, but there’s always a catch. In my long resume consisting of Startups to SV Giants, not one company paid you a lot to do less work.
- bumby 5y agoI’ve heard it described as: “You can work on interesting problems, have a great work-life balance, or get paid really well, but you can only select two.”
- Retric 5y agoThe consultant side can do all three, but it’s a tough balancing act. You need the right niche, the right connections, great technical skills, and great social skills.
- arvinsim 5y agoMaybe it's just me but finding a job that has great work-life balance and pays well is hard.
- bumby 5y ago“Pays well” is probably relative. You can certainly find them in lower cost-of-living areas by the local standard but it’s pretty hard to find SV-type pay
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- NotSammyHagar 5y agoGoogle and amazon pay pretty well. Please list a few companies that treat you better and pay more.
- flippinburgers 5y agoI have never had the luck (I guess) to run across a company that is both great to work at and pays well.
- ethbr0 5y agoIf they're great to work at, they don't have to pay top dollar to attract and (more importantly) retain people.
- decafninja 5y agoI would argue most* FAANG and similar companies are some of the best companies to work at as a SWE, in addition to paying well. No company is perfect, not even FAANG. However despite their many warts, I would argue they are still better than working at most other companies outside of the Silicon Valley tech sector where the vast majority of SWEs are employed. * Of course, there are exceptions. Amazon seems to be particularly notorious.