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European here. > Or perhaps at a minimum we’ll recognize natural immunity is at least as good as these vaccines? Yes, for some months, and then it decades. An
by rpadovani 5y ago
European here.
> Or perhaps at a minimum we’ll recognize natural immunity is at least as good as these vaccines?
Yes, for some months, and then it decades. And that's the only thing that you can save from the article.
> The vaccines continued to do great at preventing hospitalizations and deaths, but there was now no doubt that they weren’t going to contain the spread.
Ditto. So you have a duty to get vaccinated. Everything else, all your hours reading papers[0], this wall of text, all your excuses, are a way to easy your conscience. You are selfish, and you put yourself in front of your community.
I'm probably biased: I come from North Italy, I've seen the army removing corpses from hospitals 'cause they were just too many: I've seen what the virus can do if it finds the right conditions, and I've a lot of friends working in hospitals.
This winter has been way better, and the strain on the health system way lower.
If you don't do your part, you care more about yourself[1] than about the society around yourself. It is only right if the society answers in the same way, and cut you out.
[0] is that useful in any way? I cannot say I understand papers that are not from my field, but here the author seems to be able to read papers from a totally different field without problems
[1] Better: you care more about what you think is _safer_ for yourself. Not what actually is. To avoid an almost null risk in the future, you put your community at risk
- lstodd 5y ago> Yes, for some months, and then it decades. Degrades? Surely it does. What about the one from any one of the vaccines? It does just the same. > I come from North Italy Mismanagement and ignorance produces heroes and corpses. This is a long-known fact. I'm sorry, but Italy fucked it up just as bad if not worse as NYC, in the beginning. This has nothing to do with any particular virus, vaccines, community or duty. Just incompetence. Please accept that maybe people might know better how to actually care about their community.
- CRConrad 5y ago> Please accept that maybe people might know better how to actually care about their community. Please accept that some perhaps don't.