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I still use RSS. I use Feedly to curate various RSS feeds and many website still have them, or at least the tech focussed ones. I used to be subscribed to more

I still use RSS. I use Feedly to curate various RSS feeds and many website still have them, or at least the tech focussed ones. I used to be subscribed to more but some RSS feeds have such high traffic it's difficult to follow them, such as the BBC news feed. Feedly has a nice new feature [0] that makes an RSS feed out of a standard website, so that might be worth considering if you have some news sources that don't publish a RSS feed. Unfortunately this wouldn't work with anything that requires authentication like private Twitter feeds for example. [0] https://blog.feedly.com/easily-follow-websites-that-dont-have-rss-feeds/ https://blog.feedly.com/easily-follow-websites-that-dont-hav...

majormajor 5y ago
Same here. I still use it. Works fine with me, but then, I'm a bit old fashioned in that twitter/facebook/other social media isn't my news source.
bisby 5y ago
When Google reader shut down, I moved to feedly for like a week. Then I started getting anxiety that feedly would shut down too. Because if google could kill off a product i relied on, anyone could. And that got me into self hosting and running my own services. ttrss was basically my first self hosted thing almost a decade ago. It was great. And then it turned out the guy running it was a bit not pleasant, and I didn't want to support that. So I recently migrated to freshRSS. Both work great, are open source and self hostable. And feedly hasn't shut down yet (probably just to spite me). So yeah, tons of options for RSS.
- qw3rty01 5y ago
  Google has shut down a bunch of popular services: https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/ I wouldn't use them as a standard for keeping services up.
  - bisby 5y ago
    I'm aware. but also, they aren't the only company to shut down services. They do it more often and more flippantly than other companies, but other companies still do it from time to time. My response to the situation was drastic overkill, but now I get to rely on myself and I have a hobby I enjoy, rather than having to worry about what other companies decide to do with my data.
- jerf 5y ago
  Having self-hosted for a long time, I find it's getting easier in a lot of ways what with Docker and all. I'm starting to wonder where "Sandstorm 2.0" is. Sandstorm, for those who don't know, was basically an attempt to make self hosting really viable, but was tragically ahead of its time because it predated Docker. So they burned tons of effort on sandboxing, and wrapping existing applications into their sandbox, and it was just too hard to port things into their world to get very many applications running. It seems like a project that would do that in terms of docker-compose files could be created for much less effort, and maybe not quite all the pretty-shiny they had. But as I'm struggling right now a bit to bring up a Bitwarden server, there's still pain around setting up the forwards properly and getting the Let's Encrypt certificate. Something that managed all this better wouldn't be too hard, and could just be slammed up on a small AWS instance or something would be easy. (Branching out to other services over time or something.) Plus setting up proper backups would be nice. We're so, so much closer to being able to do this nowadays than we used to be... for instance, S3 has also become a near universal API, so backups using it have gotten to be easy but they can still be done without vendor lockin. Then it would be really easy to self-host an RSS reader or something. I'm hoping this will either prompt someone to consider this project, or prompt someone to tell me "It already exists, go here and here and run this docker command to install it."
  - anderspitman 5y ago
    Also take a look at Cloudron.io. It's not open source, sadly (source is available though), but it's basically what you describe. In terms of automating things like handling certs for you, I'd say Caddy or even my own boringproxy.
  - tough 5y ago
    Caprover is nice, Dokku and ledokku are OK too although not as finished maybe for the latter (GUI) I think that's the most similar think you will find to a Sandstorm 2.0 running on docker
  - bisby 5y ago
    I've taken the self hosting journey to learn tons about docker, and kubernetes. (Disclaimer: Kubernetes is overkill for self hosting). Not because it was the easiest, but because it was a great way to learn about a technology that has benefited me in my job. Nowadays, for me at least, it IS really easy to self-host anything. Get the docker image, add a deployment to my k8s cluster. Ship it. Getting to this point was less simple.
alserio 5y ago
still? It's not like there's something better out there
- _jal 5y ago
  Like what? I'm unaware of other ways to get consistent listings of new content at various sites in a machine readable format.
  - alserio 5y ago
    I agree, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. There's nothing like RSS
    - _jal 5y ago
      Ah, thanks, couldn't see your grin through the font I'm using.
grahamjpark 5y ago
I’m using NetNewsWire which works great but is iOS and Mac only. I’ve considered Feedly, but I would have to do the pro plan because of the cap on number of feeds. I haven’t switched because I have a hard time justifying the cost. I would rather that money go to the people creating the content.

majormajor 5y ago

Same here. I still use it. Works fine with me, but then, I'm a bit old fashioned in that twitter/facebook/other social media isn't my news source.

bisby 5y ago

When Google reader shut down, I moved to feedly for like a week. Then I started getting anxiety that feedly would shut down too. Because if google could kill off a product i relied on, anyone could. And that got me into self hosting and running my own services. ttrss was basically my first self hosted thing almost a decade ago. It was great. And then it turned out the guy running it was a bit not pleasant, and I didn't want to support that. So I recently migrated to freshRSS. Both work great, are open source and self hostable. And feedly hasn't shut down yet (probably just to spite me). So yeah, tons of options for RSS.

qw3rty01 5y ago
Google has shut down a bunch of popular services: https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/ I wouldn't use them as a standard for keeping services up.
- bisby 5y ago
  I'm aware. but also, they aren't the only company to shut down services. They do it more often and more flippantly than other companies, but other companies still do it from time to time. My response to the situation was drastic overkill, but now I get to rely on myself and I have a hobby I enjoy, rather than having to worry about what other companies decide to do with my data.
jerf 5y ago
Having self-hosted for a long time, I find it's getting easier in a lot of ways what with Docker and all. I'm starting to wonder where "Sandstorm 2.0" is. Sandstorm, for those who don't know, was basically an attempt to make self hosting really viable, but was tragically ahead of its time because it predated Docker. So they burned tons of effort on sandboxing, and wrapping existing applications into their sandbox, and it was just too hard to port things into their world to get very many applications running. It seems like a project that would do that in terms of docker-compose files could be created for much less effort, and maybe not quite all the pretty-shiny they had. But as I'm struggling right now a bit to bring up a Bitwarden server, there's still pain around setting up the forwards properly and getting the Let's Encrypt certificate. Something that managed all this better wouldn't be too hard, and could just be slammed up on a small AWS instance or something would be easy. (Branching out to other services over time or something.) Plus setting up proper backups would be nice. We're so, so much closer to being able to do this nowadays than we used to be... for instance, S3 has also become a near universal API, so backups using it have gotten to be easy but they can still be done without vendor lockin. Then it would be really easy to self-host an RSS reader or something. I'm hoping this will either prompt someone to consider this project, or prompt someone to tell me "It already exists, go here and here and run this docker command to install it."
- anderspitman 5y ago
  Also take a look at Cloudron.io. It's not open source, sadly (source is available though), but it's basically what you describe. In terms of automating things like handling certs for you, I'd say Caddy or even my own boringproxy.
- tough 5y ago
  Caprover is nice, Dokku and ledokku are OK too although not as finished maybe for the latter (GUI) I think that's the most similar think you will find to a Sandstorm 2.0 running on docker
- bisby 5y ago
  I've taken the self hosting journey to learn tons about docker, and kubernetes. (Disclaimer: Kubernetes is overkill for self hosting). Not because it was the easiest, but because it was a great way to learn about a technology that has benefited me in my job. Nowadays, for me at least, it IS really easy to self-host anything. Get the docker image, add a deployment to my k8s cluster. Ship it. Getting to this point was less simple.

alserio 5y ago

still? It's not like there's something better out there

_jal 5y ago
Like what? I'm unaware of other ways to get consistent listings of new content at various sites in a machine readable format.
- alserio 5y ago
  I agree, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. There's nothing like RSS
  - _jal 5y ago
    Ah, thanks, couldn't see your grin through the font I'm using.

grahamjpark 5y ago

I’m using NetNewsWire which works great but is iOS and Mac only. I’ve considered Feedly, but I would have to do the pro plan because of the cap on number of feeds. I haven’t switched because I have a hard time justifying the cost. I would rather that money go to the people creating the content.