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Ask HN: What are you going to use instead of Docker Desktop for macOS?

• xtracto 5y ago
  I've tried both of those and minikube by itself. For me the main disadvantage has been compatibility with docker-compose. I've got several projects that I run using docker-compose.yml as a "turnkey" solution. The podman compatibility is unusable, and migrating to K8s manifest files is cumbersome. Also Rancher Desktop is not a complete replacement solution, once you install it you have to add some other stuff to make it work. All this kind of has made me think more about the vendor lock-in that we were having with Docker. I am still looking for a more viable replacement.
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• rmurri 5y ago
  I've been using multipass for a couple months. It's been working well for my use case. Here are a couple links I found about it: * https://www.cnbeining.com/2021/09/using-docker-and-docker-compose-on-macos-with-multipass/ https://www.cnbeining.com/2021/09/using-docker-and-docker-co... * https://gist.github.com/pmbaumgartner/b08a34f73afcd9b29227a42f3c042b9e https://gist.github.com/pmbaumgartner/b08a34f73afcd9b29227a4... I also recently found out about colima, but haven't tried it out. * https://github.com/abiosoft/colima https://github.com/abiosoft/colima
• richardjennings 5y ago
  I have been using Lima https://github.com/lima-vm/lima https://github.com/lima-vm/lima which incidentally is the project behind both rancher desktop and colima I believe. QEMU support allows for running e.g. x86 on arm (with perf/efficiency tradeoffs)
• lmarcos 5y ago
  Linux virtual machine (via Vagrant, for instance) and inside I run docker.
  • electroly 5y ago
    Seconding this. On M1 processors, Parallels does a great job and this arrangement is vastly faster than Docker Desktop. The speed improvement alone makes it worth the cost of the Parallels license and the hassle of setting this up.
    • lmarcos 5y ago
      Additionally, I think now one can use Vmware fusion and the corresponding Vagrant plugin for free on M1 (because Virtualbox won't work anymore on the new Macs).
• emptybottle 5y ago
  A linux host (or a vagrant VM)
• bobrown010 5y ago
• yuppie_scum 5y ago
  I got my management to agree that it’s worth the $5 a month for everyone’s productivity. Hopefully Podman fixes their volume mounting problems and we can just start using that eventually.
  • pseudoramble 5y ago
    Ah man, that must be a magical place. I spent months (on-and-off) trying to convince my company to do this and failed. I hope they figure it out, because while I worked around it for my needs, I can't imagine I'm the only person who used Docker Desktop at the company, and it genuinely worries me that while IT considers it unapproved software that it won't stop its usage.
    • afarrell 5y ago
      Which management books did you cite to back you up?
      • pseudoramble 5y ago
        The wrong ones apparently :) I did attempt to explain that the cost for each dev to figure out an alternative setup would exceed the cost of the license itself, and of course pointed out the possible risk of not taking action if somebody continues to use Docker Desktop unintentionally violating the new license terms.
• pseudoramble 5y ago
  My needs are super minimal, one or two containers at a time at most. So I use Docker Engine + docker-machine (sets up a Linux VM in VirtualBox by default) + lazydocker (https://github.com/jesseduffield/lazydocker https://github.com/jesseduffield/lazydocker). I did add a function to my fish config to start Docker Engine if needed, load the environment info I need from docker-machine, and then run lazydocker. Seems to work fine so far for me.
• koenigdavidmj 5y ago
  Podman with https://github.com/jan-g/podman_wrapper https://github.com/jan-g/podman_wrapper to set up sshfs to work around its lack of bind mounting.
• wdb 5y ago
  I have been wondering if VMWare's `vctl` could work for this on the mac
• salmo 5y ago
  I’ve just been using minikube. I can just build containers with it or mock up a k8s deployment. Instructions to configure local docker or podman to use it are simple. With the hyperkit backend it’s pretty similar, just with extra bells and whistles and nothing in the taskbar. I keep things pretty simple, so there may be cases it doesn’t cover. If so, then I’d just use a VM. I still use Vagrant a lot for testing non-container stuff. It could be handy there to set up an environment that actually matches your prod setup.