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Wine was originally released in 1993. You're talking about a period 7 years into it's development. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software) https://en.wik

by bww 5y ago

Wine was originally released in 1993. You're talking about a period 7 years into it's development. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)

lelanthran 5y ago
> Wine was originally released in 1993. You're talking about a period 7 years into it's development. So? Darling is 9 years into its[1] development and hasn't really reached the maturity that Wine had after 7 years of development. If memory serves me correctly[2], I'm quite sure that I played one or two Directx games on Linux using Wine in Dec-1998 - that's 5 years of development. Fair enough, most of the games/apps did not run (Dune 2k was listed as "working" so I ran out and bought a copy only to find that it got no further than the game menu screen) but it ran more Windowed programs and full-screen games back then than Darling does now, so I don't think that I am performing an unfair comparison in that regard. It might be that there is just not enough contributors to Darling to proceed at the pace that Wine did. [1] I don't believe an apostrophe goes between the 't' and the 's'. [2] At this stage of my life I treat my memory as a rough guide to past events, not as a record of what happened, so I could be wrong about the dates towards the end of the 90s.
- samtheDamned 5y ago
  > So? Darling is 9 years into its[1] development and hasn't really reached the maturity that Wine had after 7 years of development. In 1993 wine had a much smaller target though, windows was in its infancy. Darling started in 2012, over a decade after mac-OSX, which even at that point was an established OS brand.
- lelanthran 5y ago
  [EDIT: One more thing - In 1999 Wine ran my Watcom C/C++ IDE (with wasm inline and standalone too) perfectly. It just did not always run the programs I wrote in the IDE. I still have the CD somewhere.]

by bww 5y ago

Wine was originally released in 1993. You're talking about a period 7 years into it's development. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)

lelanthran 5y ago

> Wine was originally released in 1993. You're talking about a period 7 years into it's development. So? Darling is 9 years into its[1] development and hasn't really reached the maturity that Wine had after 7 years of development. If memory serves me correctly[2], I'm quite sure that I played one or two Directx games on Linux using Wine in Dec-1998 - that's 5 years of development. Fair enough, most of the games/apps did not run (Dune 2k was listed as "working" so I ran out and bought a copy only to find that it got no further than the game menu screen) but it ran more Windowed programs and full-screen games back then than Darling does now, so I don't think that I am performing an unfair comparison in that regard. It might be that there is just not enough contributors to Darling to proceed at the pace that Wine did. [1] I don't believe an apostrophe goes between the 't' and the 's'. [2] At this stage of my life I treat my memory as a rough guide to past events, not as a record of what happened, so I could be wrong about the dates towards the end of the 90s.

samtheDamned 5y ago
> So? Darling is 9 years into its[1] development and hasn't really reached the maturity that Wine had after 7 years of development. In 1993 wine had a much smaller target though, windows was in its infancy. Darling started in 2012, over a decade after mac-OSX, which even at that point was an established OS brand.
lelanthran 5y ago
[EDIT: One more thing - In 1999 Wine ran my Watcom C/C++ IDE (with wasm inline and standalone too) perfectly. It just did not always run the programs I wrote in the IDE. I still have the CD somewhere.]