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I glanced through the leadership principles and laughed a bit. I feel sorry for the people who think they have to put up with that bullshit. It all boils down

I glanced through the leadership principles and laughed a bit. I feel sorry for the people who think they have to put up with that bullshit. It all boils down to making the employees working as hard as possible, that's the single reason those principles exist. To make specially young and clueless employees forget it's just a job, because hey, it must be an obsession! If you are young, this may seem normal i guess but I would never ever touch amazon.

faangiq 5y ago
They’re actually good principles just not followed at all by management.
munchler 5y ago
As another old guy: Amen. I love being productive, but hate being pressured. All these FAANG jobs sound like the opposite. No thanks.
NotVerstappen 5y ago
Leadership principles feature in normal employee life in exactly two circumstances: when you are doing interview loops, and when you need to win an argument, eg with some jobsworth sales person who wants you to over-promise to a customer.
jkingsbery 5y ago
Current Amazon employee here. > It all boils down to making the employees working as hard as possible This has not been my experience. The way I've looked at it as, these are more explicit ground rules for how decisions are made. At most other places I've worked, the mechanisms for making decisions was often quite arbitrary, and boiling down to whatever the most senior person in the room wants. When the Leadership Principles are done well, you'll see there are checks and balances built in. For example: yes, we have "customer obsession," and we try to work hard for customers, but if my boss told me to work unreasonable hours, he would fail in the "Earn Trust" area, and he would be in danger of losing his team. I've found my work-life balance at Amazon to be pretty reasonable, and much better than pretty much any where else I've worked.
- chickenpotpie 5y ago
  There's actually a more specific leadership principle right now for bad managers "strive to be the world's best employer"
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faangiq 5y ago

They’re actually good principles just not followed at all by management.

munchler 5y ago

As another old guy: Amen. I love being productive, but hate being pressured. All these FAANG jobs sound like the opposite. No thanks.

NotVerstappen 5y ago

Leadership principles feature in normal employee life in exactly two circumstances: when you are doing interview loops, and when you need to win an argument, eg with some jobsworth sales person who wants you to over-promise to a customer.

jkingsbery 5y ago

Current Amazon employee here. > It all boils down to making the employees working as hard as possible This has not been my experience. The way I've looked at it as, these are more explicit ground rules for how decisions are made. At most other places I've worked, the mechanisms for making decisions was often quite arbitrary, and boiling down to whatever the most senior person in the room wants. When the Leadership Principles are done well, you'll see there are checks and balances built in. For example: yes, we have "customer obsession," and we try to work hard for customers, but if my boss told me to work unreasonable hours, he would fail in the "Earn Trust" area, and he would be in danger of losing his team. I've found my work-life balance at Amazon to be pretty reasonable, and much better than pretty much any where else I've worked.

chickenpotpie 5y ago
There's actually a more specific leadership principle right now for bad managers "strive to be the world's best employer"
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