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The article mentions aggressive delivery dates, conflicting goals between different departments that get in the way of career progression, and massive amounts o

The article mentions aggressive delivery dates, conflicting goals between different departments that get in the way of career progression, and massive amounts of stress as being 'normal' at Amazon. And we already know that Amazon exploits and over-exerts their employees in other divisions, like warehouse. At what point do we say enough is enough? Amazon warehouse employees are already pushing for better working conditions through Unions. When will we finally realize that Amazon is equally over-working everyone and join that solidarity effort so that everyone's working environment becomes better? Quitting doesn't change anything, we can see they just rehire and perpetuate bad culture. Even the author of the article says just that; he was hired to replace someone. If nothing changes, your friends and colleagues (and your future children if they do engineering) will all still suffer at the hands of Amazon. And believe me, their work culture will bleed out to other companies. I've seen it.

atlasunshrugged 5y ago
By that logic won't the company just destroy itself from the inside out eventually? How many people who read this article and the likely scores more or bothered to look at glassdoor will bother to apply or accept a recruiter call? Eventually something breaks internally and the company is destroyed (albeit likely a very slow death) or it gets fixed. I don't worry a ton about HQ people, most of those can get other jobs but the warehouse workers in small towns without other opportunities, that's a tougher one and I hope that they are able to unionize or get some sort of strengthened protections themselves or through the gov.
- tablespoon 5y ago
  >> If nothing changes, your friends and colleagues (and your future children if they do engineering) will all still suffer at the hands of Amazon. And believe me, their work culture will bleed out to other companies. I've seen it. > By that logic won't the company just destroy itself from the inside out eventually? Yes, but it usually takes an unacceptably long time for something like that to happen, and in the mean time a lot of people get hurt. As they say "in the long run, we're all dead": it doesn't do us much good if letting the problems work themselves out means we'll never live to see the solution.
Invictus0 5y ago
Why do we have to have "solidarity" on this issue? What does that even mean in practice? Everyone knows the deal with Amazon or learns very quickly, and either deals with it or quits.
exolymph 5y ago
> If nothing changes, your friends and colleagues (and your future children if they do engineering) will all still suffer at the hands of Amazon. ????? it's super possible to simply not work there
- willheis 5y ago
  Tell that to Twitch and Ring employees. The consolidation of the tech industry is pretty apparent and I would put a lot of money on Amazon being one of the "final four" of the tech industry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Amazon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...

atlasunshrugged 5y ago

By that logic won't the company just destroy itself from the inside out eventually? How many people who read this article and the likely scores more or bothered to look at glassdoor will bother to apply or accept a recruiter call? Eventually something breaks internally and the company is destroyed (albeit likely a very slow death) or it gets fixed. I don't worry a ton about HQ people, most of those can get other jobs but the warehouse workers in small towns without other opportunities, that's a tougher one and I hope that they are able to unionize or get some sort of strengthened protections themselves or through the gov.

tablespoon 5y ago
>> If nothing changes, your friends and colleagues (and your future children if they do engineering) will all still suffer at the hands of Amazon. And believe me, their work culture will bleed out to other companies. I've seen it. > By that logic won't the company just destroy itself from the inside out eventually? Yes, but it usually takes an unacceptably long time for something like that to happen, and in the mean time a lot of people get hurt. As they say "in the long run, we're all dead": it doesn't do us much good if letting the problems work themselves out means we'll never live to see the solution.

Invictus0 5y ago

Why do we have to have "solidarity" on this issue? What does that even mean in practice? Everyone knows the deal with Amazon or learns very quickly, and either deals with it or quits.

exolymph 5y ago

> If nothing changes, your friends and colleagues (and your future children if they do engineering) will all still suffer at the hands of Amazon. ????? it's super possible to simply not work there

willheis 5y ago
Tell that to Twitch and Ring employees. The consolidation of the tech industry is pretty apparent and I would put a lot of money on Amazon being one of the "final four" of the tech industry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Amazon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...