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>he came back from parental leave and his direct reports had all been put on a PIP while he was out Wow. It’s really difficult to imagine a likely scenario whe
by brazzledazzle 5y ago
>he came back from parental leave and his direct reports had all been put on a PIP while he was out
Wow. It’s really difficult to imagine a likely scenario where that’s justified.
- pc86 5y agoThey had a quota to fill, and they didn't know or didn't like anyone on that team. Not that that is a justification, but it's almost certainly the reason.
- twiddling 5y agoand if a mgr is not there to defend his team...
- ubermonkey 5y agoA quota of people who needed to be on PIPs? That's insane.
- pas 5y agoKeep the blood fresh. The slowest/oldest/worst 10% has to go! Stack ranking is the best!
- monetus 5y agoAlmost all casual retail jobs in my area operate like this. It is somewhat stunning when you compare them to national chains not using localized labor practices.
- tdeck 5y agoJust a few months ago it came to light that managers at Amazon hire new people they're planning to fire shortly after, so they don't have to fire people they're attached to in order to meet such a quota. https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-tracks-unregretted-attrition-rate-people-not-sad-to-lose-2021-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-tracks-unregretted-at...
- mcguire 5y agoJust a few months ago? Wasn't that the case several years ago, or was than MS or one of the other FAANGs?
- tdeck 5y agoA few years ago there was a lot of noise about stack ranking at Microsoft, and there was also a lot about people crying at their desks at Amazon several years ago - perhaps you're remembering one of those. I believe the specific "hire to fire" press is pretty recent.
- Decker87 5y agoI think it was perhaps circulating in the professional networks and rumor mills before. I remember hearing about it a few years ago.
- morelisp 5y agoI remember hearing about "hire to fire" at Amazon as far back as 2014, though the claim was that it happened "merely" enough to have a cute name, not that it was endemic.
- artursapek 5y agoThat is so fucked up
- pyrale 5y agoImagine getting fired because your manager is on a leave and their manager sees you as free real estate.
- paganel 5y agoTells a lot about company politics. Often times I'm left wondering how come capitalism still survives. Actually, writing this down made me think that big companies (like the FAANG mostly are) are quite anti-capitalistic. I'm not sure how to call them, because sure as hell they're not socialist or anything of the sorts, but it's reasonably clear that many of the theoretical capitalistic principles that many of us know in one way or another do not apply to these economic entities.
- kfarr 5y agoMaybe more medieval: building up fiefdoms, power, resources, etc
- FridgeSeal 5y agoNeeds a catchy name, Capitalist Feudalism? Feudal Capitalism?
- kfarr 5y agoCorporate Feudalism?
- Schiendelman 5y agoOligarchic. (Internal) Leaders who run successful businesses call the shots for everyone.
- jedberg 5y agoMost companies are authoritarian internally. The people at the top make decisions and push those down to their lieutenants who then enforce those rules on the masses.
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- AdrianB1 5y agoUsually performance evaluations are done with managers of a certain level; if there is no manager to represent his/her direct reports, with stacked ranking they all get at the bottom. I personally had a direct report, ~ 10 years ago, with PIP because her previous direct manager was 3 months on paternity leave so she drew the short straw. The person was an average performer, so I fixed the PIP situation and she is still working there.