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My sister was a hostess for an upscale restaurant and had a gun pulled on her because she asked someone to wear a mask. The worst part, instead of calling the c

by dexwiz 5y ago

My sister was a hostess for an upscale restaurant and had a gun pulled on her because she asked someone to wear a mask. The worst part, instead of calling the cops or asking them to leave, her managers still had her seat the party. She doesn't work there anymore.

ekanes 5y ago
Yikes. Pulling a gun like that is a serious crime, isn't it?
- deleted 5y ago
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- boring_twenties 5y ago
  Definitely. Simply displaying the firearm is a crime (usually "brandishing"). If he actually pointed the gun at another person, well, IANAL but that sounds like assault with a deadly weapon to me.
pavon 5y ago
Honestly, that is probably the best way to defuse the situation and prevent people from being shot. Collect license plates, credit card info, photos etc, and call the police after they have left the building.
- fundad 5y ago
  I'm sure they did not do any of that
- cgriswald 5y ago
  Even if that were the case, the manager should be the one seating them. He shouldn't be forcing his victimized employee to seat them.
logicalmonster 5y ago
I'm not saying that pulling a gun on anybody for this reason is in any way reasonable or proportional. What happened to your sister sounds horrific and her former-employer sounds awful beyond words. But I have to say, I understand why people asked to mask up in some cases flip out. Does it make sense to anybody that society has somehow decided that the way to be safe in restaurants is to put on a mask so a host can walk you 10-15 feet to your table for 10 seconds where you then proceed to take your mask off for over an hour? The mask ritual especially in this case is dehumanizing performative theater that doesn't make a lick of logical sense. Most people wouldn't be so uptight about the Covid rules when they make any sense: but many of them are beyond nonsensical.
- cecilpl2 5y ago
  Theater or not, the reasonable thing to do in this situation is to understand that the host is not the person making the rules. You do the thing because that's the script, whether you agree with it or not. In fact maybe the host doesn't even agree with it, but they are also just doing their job. Now that said maybe there are valid reasons why it's riskier to have people walking around a restaurant unmasked, like say HVAC might pull air up from the tables, but you walking around past a bunch of tables spreads droplets into their airspace. I don't know, I'm not an expert, but I can think of reasons that seem to make sense.
- boring_twenties 5y ago
  Sure, it's theater. So the proper response is obviously to flip out on the teenage girl making $7.50 an hour, obviously it's all her fault.
  - logicalmonster 5y ago
    Who said anything about flipping out on the teenage girl making minimum wage being the right thing to do? Is that how you interpreted my comment even though I very explicitly denounced what happened? I think actions such as politely voicing displeasure at the policy to the worker so they understand that many people think the policy is dumb, asking to speak to the manager or owner, and leaving so the restaurant doesn't get your business are the right thing to do in this case.
anm89 5y ago
Absolutely do not believe this. There is something in this story you arent saying.
- detaro 5y ago
  > Absolutely do not believe this. Which part?
  - JaimeThompson 5y ago
    If I had the guess it would be the part that might make them rethink their view on things.
- lovich 5y ago
  Have you worked shitty retail/food services jobs before?
- gaspard234 5y ago
  I live in Texas and this happens all the time. Here is a case that happened last month over a parking spot. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2021/12/02/corpus-christi-woman-accused-of-threatening-people-with-gun-over-h-e-b-parking-spot https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/20...

by dexwiz 5y ago

ekanes 5y ago

Yikes. Pulling a gun like that is a serious crime, isn't it?

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boring_twenties 5y ago
Definitely. Simply displaying the firearm is a crime (usually "brandishing"). If he actually pointed the gun at another person, well, IANAL but that sounds like assault with a deadly weapon to me.

pavon 5y ago

Honestly, that is probably the best way to defuse the situation and prevent people from being shot. Collect license plates, credit card info, photos etc, and call the police after they have left the building.

fundad 5y ago
I'm sure they did not do any of that
cgriswald 5y ago
Even if that were the case, the manager should be the one seating them. He shouldn't be forcing his victimized employee to seat them.

logicalmonster 5y ago

I'm not saying that pulling a gun on anybody for this reason is in any way reasonable or proportional. What happened to your sister sounds horrific and her former-employer sounds awful beyond words. But I have to say, I understand why people asked to mask up in some cases flip out. Does it make sense to anybody that society has somehow decided that the way to be safe in restaurants is to put on a mask so a host can walk you 10-15 feet to your table for 10 seconds where you then proceed to take your mask off for over an hour? The mask ritual especially in this case is dehumanizing performative theater that doesn't make a lick of logical sense. Most people wouldn't be so uptight about the Covid rules when they make any sense: but many of them are beyond nonsensical.

cecilpl2 5y ago
Theater or not, the reasonable thing to do in this situation is to understand that the host is not the person making the rules. You do the thing because that's the script, whether you agree with it or not. In fact maybe the host doesn't even agree with it, but they are also just doing their job. Now that said maybe there are valid reasons why it's riskier to have people walking around a restaurant unmasked, like say HVAC might pull air up from the tables, but you walking around past a bunch of tables spreads droplets into their airspace. I don't know, I'm not an expert, but I can think of reasons that seem to make sense.
boring_twenties 5y ago
Sure, it's theater. So the proper response is obviously to flip out on the teenage girl making $7.50 an hour, obviously it's all her fault.
- logicalmonster 5y ago
  Who said anything about flipping out on the teenage girl making minimum wage being the right thing to do? Is that how you interpreted my comment even though I very explicitly denounced what happened? I think actions such as politely voicing displeasure at the policy to the worker so they understand that many people think the policy is dumb, asking to speak to the manager or owner, and leaving so the restaurant doesn't get your business are the right thing to do in this case.

anm89 5y ago

Absolutely do not believe this. There is something in this story you arent saying.

detaro 5y ago
> Absolutely do not believe this. Which part?
- JaimeThompson 5y ago
  If I had the guess it would be the part that might make them rethink their view on things.
lovich 5y ago
Have you worked shitty retail/food services jobs before?
gaspard234 5y ago
I live in Texas and this happens all the time. Here is a case that happened last month over a parking spot. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2021/12/02/corpus-christi-woman-accused-of-threatening-people-with-gun-over-h-e-b-parking-spot https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/20...